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Having been around for the last few OIC's and having lost tens of thousands of dollars each and every time the Bureaucracy of each Government decided to make our precious firearms prohibited with a "stroke of the pen" (yes, even on a Conservative Government's watch); I'd like to comment on the "hate" for TSE right now.

I've never bought a thing from them in the decades I've been involved in the shooting world. Distance, pricing, maybe both. SO this isn't a TSE "love in" post. I stand to lose $$ this round as well.

If you have to hate, then hate. Did the situation between TSE and CSC bring the Swiss Arms to the forefront? Absolutely. It may have sped it up. However, make no mistake about THIS.

TSE DID NOT change the ideologies and mindset of the Bureaucrats and RCMP. Those are philosophies ingrained and entrenched. They were out to prohibit our firearms and ARE out to prohibit our
firearms. They always were and always have been.

There will not be anyone to blame when they go after the Tavors, FS2000's, Type 97's, M17S's, CZ858's etc. It's not a matter of if...just a matter of when.

We have eaten our own kind in the past; we can continue to do so or wait and see what JR is doing and can do. The charge in the legal actions to protect ourselves and our community will have to be
funded by business owners as well as us as they have the most financial engine and possibly more to lose. No changing what has happened, we can affect what does happen though.

I am not hating; been there and done that. I am waiting and watching and preparing for the next round of "taking". Let's see what JR is doing.

Namaste
 
GALIL Man said:
If you have to hate, then hate. Did the situation between TSE and CSC bring the Swiss Arms to the forefront? Absolutely. It may have sped it up. However, make no mistake about THIS.

TSE DID NOT change the ideologies and mindset of the Bureaucrats and RCMP. Those are philosophies ingrained and entrenched. They were out to prohibit our firearms and ARE out to prohibit our
firearms. They always were and always have been.
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Similar to my take. I don't like the way that the this went down between these two companies either. The CPC is in power and there is some hope that this reclassification madness BS can finally be addressed. Not to mention that we let them know how unhappy we are with C-68 in general and want something done to rectify this injustice.
 
I don't hate the TSE like some of you do. This is just a wake up call to a young Canadian it's our ridiculous laws that allowed this to happen. And to the morons who would enforce such a technicality, they're just itching to kick in a few more doors, nothing is going to stop the RCMP from attempting to strike fear into the hearts of law abiding citizens and or set multiple presidents for civil abuse. This is only the beginning I could see RCMP home invasions becoming a huge problem in the near future once all these militarized kill teams get tired of busting pot dealers in mommy a basement. No criminals? They will make them.
 
You know, I don't find myself commenting on very many of these threads.....but I figured I'd share this.

This is basically stating that we as Canadians don't approve the fact the RCMP can come and change classifications of a firearm simple because they "looked into it more". With in a 24 hour period, this has gotten almost 2,600 signers. If anyone has signed the previous petition I shared, you'll know that isn't an easy thing to do. All-in-all, this will definably show that we as legal firearm owners are now longer willing to sit back and be told we can't use something for enjoyment since it MIGHT be used in a crime.......regardless of the fact it hasn't in the past.


http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/the-rcmp-abuses-c-68/signatures-page14.html
 
Regardless of what is being said now, my family, close friends and myself will NEVER be bringing business to this store whether online again or in person. I will be sure to inform anyone that I know of the actions taken by TSE in the past to further ensure the reclassification of this rifle.
 
J.R., my bill to you is in the mail. Besides, you might as well have the damn rifle back anyways, your fu***ng logo is on it anyhow. Want the scope mount too? Sure why not, I no longer have a rifle to mount it on.
 
I second that. I am not extending my membership at Target Sports and not buying anything from them. Period.


Allaemer245 said:
Regardless of what is being said now, my family, close friends and myself will NEVER be bringing business to this store whether online again or in person. I will be sure to inform anyone that I know of the actions taken by TSE in the past to further ensure the reclassification of this rifle.
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In general, I feel disgusted and disappointed. I came to Canada from USSR in 1993 and never felt that way since. Until this happened. Awful feeling that you are not FREE any more.
 
This is some overzealous bureaucrat artwork to justify his very important job,salary and position because with this superb move he saved the country ,millions of innocent people and now he deserve to get the big salary from our tax money all the way to the his retirement.And we need to be thankful for the dealers for bringing us and trying to bring us a wide variety of firearms.They got approval to bring this arms in the country did not sneak in.They not suppose to pay for somebody else ambitions or mistakes. I want to thank them for their business and their help to own the symbol of our freedom,the firearms.If somebody want to reclassify the add to the PAL of the current owners the prohibited status .
 
Careful guys, apparently CGN is on the TSE payroll. The last three threads that had any TSE or JR bashing all got locked an I got a warning not to start another one. I do agree with the OP though, lets see what JR does, after instigating this mess, it will be interesting to see if he steps up and fronts a substantial amount of money pursue the reclassification suit. After all, he has sure made a lot of money off of Swiss Arms owner that are getting screwed in this deal. Plenty of people, including non-swiss arms owners, are donating to the cause to see our gun rights protected. Lets see what JR does. While we are at it, lets see what Greentips does. I wonder if he will be donating anything with the proceeds he earns of off CGN instead of just locking posts when people are upset about a vendors action DIRECTILY resulting in a firearm reclassification.
 
Schecter 81 said:
Careful guys, apparently CGN is on the TSE payroll. The last three threads that had any TSE or JR bashing all got locked an I got a warning not to start another one. I do agree with the OP though, lets see what JR does, after instigating this mess, it will be interesting to see if he steps up and fronts a substantial amount of money pursue the reclassification suit. After all, he has sure made a lot of money off of Swiss Arms owner that are getting screwed in this deal. Plenty of people, including non-swiss arms owners, are donating to the cause to see our gun rights protected. Lets see what JR does. While we are at it, lets see what Greentips does. I wonder if he will be donating anything with the proceeds he earns of off CGN instead of just locking posts when people are upset about a vendors action DIRECTILY resulting in a firearm reclassification.
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Its not that they are on a pay roll, CGN doesn't want to be named in JR's pending law suit the will be launched for libel or defamation of character.
 
my angryness goes to the RCMP's unaccountable public servants.

it's them who put their approval on the firearms entering in this country.

these rifles are the same rifles since 13 YEARS AGO ,but now, because a batch of rifles refurbished from ex- full auto recievers (which can't be converted to full anymore ) , they're now ALL prohibited?? what a bunch of dirty pricks the RCMP really is .


it's like flushing the baby with the water's bath,a bureaucratic non sens, and YES, the CPC is the BOSS,and they should address this NON SENS provoqued by THEIR state servants NOW .

in our high tax country, it's again the law abiding citizens who now see their property STOLEN BY THE STATE POLICE with 0 accountability on their part . RCMP ; A SHAME flying over the whole country .
 
You people needs to stop fighting one another. The TSE vs CSC fiasco is taking the focus away from the real problems: the Criminal Code of Canada, the Firearms Act, and the RCMP. Redirect your anger appropriately. We need to come together and use all of that energy in our favor. Write your MP. Write the PM. Write the Minister of Public Safety. Keep your opinions of retailer separate from the real issues.
 
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