I would still like to see this in a cheaper rifle. I have heard good things about the savage Axis for example, nothing really negative other than from eliteists. If I could buy a rifle for $400 dollars that I could hunt deer with and then shoot targets or varmints for near rimfire cost, actually cheaper than 17 hmr I would consider that a win/win situation. I am not going to spend $800 though when I do already have my rifles for hunting and my other rifles I use for fun and plinking.