Two noob questions, one transport and one home defense

[rem74283]

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Storage

◾Must be unloaded.
◾Must be secured by a locking device (e.g. trigger lock) so that it cannot be fired and must be locked into a room or container that is hard to break into; or must be locked in a safe/vault (if locked in a safe, there is no need for a secure locking device).
◾Vehicle storage: Locked container with firearm must be locked in the trunk area or other similar compartment. If vehicle does not have such a compartment, the container must be put out of sight and the vehicle locked securely

a "safe" has its definitions too. I have a Canadian Tire tin "locker". it wouldn't classify as a safe. I have a friend with a certified "vault" in his house. He can store his restricted inside unlocked.

[padawan]

I've has people tell me that in those situations you should put the first shot between his eyes and the next into the floor. Tell the police you fired a warning shot. Neighbours wont know the difference.

I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where I would allow an invader to get close enough to me for a clean head shot. Or that I'll be able to keep calm enough to pull off a shot like that. Aim for the easiest part to hit. If he/she is still alive.......sweep the house a few dozen times to make sure your family is safe and there is no one left in the house that may what to harm you, before calling 911.

[Corry]

Actually, OP, if you don't mind, i have something i am rather 'unclear about' to ask your audience of..It's about home storage laws.

Hypothetically speaking, if you have a small, keypad steel safe in your bedroom, can one keep a handgun in it? and along with the handgun, a loaded mag sitting separate from the gun, but in the same safe?

I've asked people, but could never get a clear, definitive answer...

This is how I keep my pistol, in a keypad safe (bolted to my rifle safe). My pistol is stored without a magazine in it however I have 4 magazines all of which are full as well as a few hundred rounds of ammo in boxes. The pistol is not trigger locked. This is perfectly legal so long as the magazines are not in the pistol itself

[rem74283]

And this is where i get with most of the people I ask this question of..It becomes sort of a Grey area..

I know of someone who is a line walker and a zombie apocalypse type that has a soft case with a divider in it. He keeps an empty semi on one side and a loaded mag on the other (separate storage) . held closed with a small tie wrap (locking device). One quick pull to break the tie wrap, reach in with a practiced hand and grab both the semi and the mag, load and chamber, timed himself under 3 seconds.

[padawan]

a "safe" has its definitions too. I have a Canadian Tire tin "locker". it wouldn't classify as a safe. I have a friend with a certified "vault" in his house. He can store his restricted inside unlocked.

He is asking about a small Keypad, steel SAFE. He's not asking about a Tin CTC container.

[padawan]

I know of someone who is a line walker and a zombie apocalypse type that has a soft case with a divider in it. He keeps an empty semi on one side and a loaded mag on the other (separate storage) . held closed with a small tie wrap (locking device). One quick pull to break the tie wrap, reach in with a practiced hand and grab both the semi and the mag, load and chamber, timed himself under 3 seconds.

No divider needed. You can store loaded mags in the Safe beside, but not in the Firearm.

[rem74283]

I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where I would allow an invader to get close enough to me for a clean head shot. Or that I'll be able to keep calm enough to pull off a shot like that. Aim for the easiest part to hit. If he/she is still alive.......sweep the house a few dozen times to make sure your family is safe and there is no one left in the house that may what to harm you, before calling 911.

good point

[rem74283]

No divider needed. You can store loaded mags in the Safe beside, but not in the Firearm.

what about transport. cant have a loaded mag in the case then right?

[rem74283]

No divider needed. You can store loaded mags in the Safe beside, but not in the Firearm.

oh, by the way, this was in his vehicle. not a valid safe.

[Corry]

what about transport. cant have a loaded mag in the case then right?

Yes you can have loaded mag in a case for transport so long as the case is locked and the firearm is also trigger locked