***New to Canada*** SAP6 MAG-FED FLAT-TOP 11.4" 12GA Shotgun **NON-RESTRICTED**

[mebiuspower]

Could someone explain why we can have non restricted short barreled shotguns but not short barreled rifles? I thought they wee classified the same way.

Wait a minute, are you trying to use logic to understand gun laws?

[oneguywithsixguns]

^^

For more information, give a read through this article:
https://nfa.ca/resource-items/barrel...rearms-lengths
It isn't a government document, but it does seem fairly easy to understand by comparison. Not that anyone really understands government law and logic..

Jesus this is convoluted! I hope they get that new gun legislation through soon.

[Tactical Imports]

When you say 'upgrade' does that mean we can buy it with the 14" bbl INSTEAD of the 11.4" Or will we have to buy with 11.4" and add the 14" ?

The standard model will continue to be the 11.4" model, however we will bring in the spare 14" barrels for those that are interested

[Doc911]

The standard model will continue to be the 11.4" model, however we will bring in the spare 14" barrels for those that are interested

HOOT, again...
I thought it was clear, the first go round.
Waiting for "a few" reviews, (and future mag sizes from TI...), to place my order.

Not willing to shell the $$'s, w/o a future higher cap mag on the "pending imminent" horizon (i.e., before the next federal election...).
Push comes to shove, I'll do the "min cap" mags, and order anyway....

A few concerns, around 'durability', and 'modification compatibility', that I HOPE BBB has covered, and then I'm "in".

Hats off to TI, for bringing in what has the potential to be a REALLY cool shotgun..!!

(full disclosure "yes, I own all the "other" current shotgun lemons out there"...)...

[Ashcan Man]

Who makes these and where is it made?
Warranty details?
Are parts readily available?
Are extra magazines available?

[Kevin M.]

Who makes these and where is it made? Dagger - Turkey
Warranty details? Not sure, ask TI
Are parts readily available? As above
Are extra magazines available? Yes, through TI

Answered what I can.

[Dexter Morgan]

Who makes these and where is it made?

They look a lot like Derya Arms.

[Ezesport]

Just got one of these. First impression is it's a solid built shotgun. It cycles very smooth but the spring loaded pump is a different feel than my 590. Don't know if you can drop a single in with the spring loaded action. The magazines are a solid metal construction with a good fit.

[SpicyRichter]

I'm guessing you can hunt with these if you drop a shell limiter in the mag?

[kagia]

Could we please get the 14" bbl without the monolithic flat top rail?
A small rail on top of the reciever or a two piece full length rail would be a massive improvement.

^This^