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Big red neck they are called the rough use bolo knife !!!! And i have 5 of them none have seen any action yet but most definitely great for tossing into the fence or any other meanial tasks, great gifts for tweens as well kinda has a rambo type look to it. Kids love em.
Pretty sure I got their last rough use bolo. Bought two, one was a used floor model, blade finish marred up a little, and it had a small white sticker on it with $10.00 written in pen. Browsed the site the next day, and noticed they were sold out. I grabbed a Work Sharp Ken Onion, and reworked the blade edge on both of them. For sure worth $10 imo.
Here is an 8 part destructing review!
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/07/08...truction-test/
Warning, you will get tired of him saying,, so far so good!
Last edited by bobdbldr; 03-26-2015 at 02:45 PM.
" Those who hammer their swords into plowshares, will Plow for those who do not".
Understood. The thing about it is that after you've accumulated a whole bunch of cheap knives (or tools) and come to realize that none of them actually fit the bill perfectly and still need to buy more, you've simply wasted your money. Trust me, I've been there in my younger days. I know it may sound counter-intuitive, but if you don't have a bunch of spending cash lying around all the time, you cannot afford to buy cheap! Buy a quality item to begin with and therefore buy it only once. In the long run, you save more money that way.Originally Posted by bobdbldr
As for the kind of knives our ancestors used, they were pretty darn good in comparison to 99.9% of the Chinese crap we see flooding the market today, actually. They were made out of solid pieces of carbon steel, hammer forged and heat treated accordingly, then sharpened to a lasting razor-sharp edge that could take a beating and come back for more. I've been interested in DIY knife making for some time now and a well executed home made knife is probably one of the best blades you'll ever carry, as long as you care for it (carbon steel's Achilles heel is that it rusts!). Such knives have excellent edge retention, plus the right hardness and flexibility where it matters in a hard working knife. Also, as a rule of thumb, remember that ANYTHING stainless is weakened steel (regardless of price), because of the chromium added to the melted steel to prevent it from rusting. And, as far as stainless steel goes, 440A is one of the worst/cheapest you can get for blade material. If you want strength and performance, you NEED hammer forged carbon steel with a properly done heat treatment. This is what distinguishes the $300 knife from the $10 knife.
The cool thing about DIY knife making is that, with a little practice, you can easily replicate and even exceed the specs of a $300 knife all by yourself, which is what our ancestors did... and it costs VERY little to boot (often times it's just a piece of junkyard steel and some charcoal for your backyard forge, plus a good hammer and a decent anvil). There are plenty of tutorials available out there (YouTube, etc), as well as detailed courses/DIY manuals.
So, contrary to popular modern belief, our ancestors' knives were FAR from sucky...
Last edited by 762mm; 03-28-2015 at 05:11 AM.
Lesson from elections 2021 : The PPC's only REAL purpose is to split that razor-thin Conservative vote and re-elect Liberals!
I hope they bring the "useful dirk" back, I was gearing up to get one with my next order.
That's why I have both on hand , I have my good knives and the cheap ones. To be honnest the cheap rough use knives do everything my rats and tops does. So far so good anyways.i got 3 years out of one so far and it's still holding up. A few dents , scratches and chips but hey , I've been hard on it. Like I said it's nice to throw in the truck and forget about it and if I need it one day it's there. Unless you can afford to put a 300$ knife in your truck , quad , boat and snowmobile. I don't have 1200$ for spending on knives to just throw in vehicles , so I Go with the 10$ ones. My tops always tags along on hunting trip , just in case.Understood. The thing about it is that after you've accumulated a whole bunch of cheap knives (or tools) and come to realize that none of them actually fit the bill perfectly and still need to buy more, you've simply wasted your money. Trust me, I've been there in my younger days. I know it may sound counter-intuitive, but if you don't have a bunch of spending cash lying around all the time, you cannot afford to buy cheap! Buy a quality item to begin with and therefore buy it only once. In the long run, you save more money that way.
As for the kind of knives our ancestors used, they were pretty darn good in comparison to 99.9% of the Chinese crap we see flooding the market today, actually. They were made out of solid pieces of carbon steel, hammer forged and heat treated accordingly, then sharpened to a lasting razor-sharp edge that could take a beating and come back for more. I've been interested in DIY knife making for some time now and a well executed home made knife is probably one of the best blades you'll ever carry, as long as you care for it (carbon steel's Achilles heel is that it rusts!). Such knives have excellent edge retention, plus the right hardness and flexibility where it matters in a hard working knife. Also, as a rule of thumb, remember that ANYTHING stainless is weakened steel (regardless of price), because of the chromium added to the melted steel to prevent it from rusting. And, as far as stainless steel goes, 440A is one of the worst/cheapest you can get for blade material. If you want strength and performance, you NEED hammer forged carbon steel with a properly done heat treatment. This is what distinguishes the $300 knife from the $10 knife.
The cool thing about DIY knife making is that, with a little practice, you can easily replicate and even exceed the specs of a $300 knife all by yourself, which is what our ancestors did... and it costs VERY little to boot (often times it's just a piece of junkyard steel and some charcoal for your backyard forge, plus a good hammer and a decent anvil). There are plenty of tutorials available out there (YouTube, etc), as well as detailed courses/DIY manuals.
So, contrary to popular modern belief, our ancestors' knives were FAR from sucky...
I'm canadian eh , there's no doot aboot
I'd have to partially agree. There is no substitute for quality when talking about a tool you will use more than a handful of times. You will save money in the long run. However being frugal requires you to asses each purchases and give things a value, not just a price tag. I've purchased a few cheap tools, or even made my own specialty tools on several occasions. Most of them were to perform a task I've only needed to do once. I saved a ton of money in the first place by doing the labor myself so I could have purchased a higher quality tool. However the value of that tool to me after I used it to complete a rare job would be very small. It would sit, collecting dust. The cash I saved by getting the cheaper tool for this job is now money in the bank to allow me to purchase higher quality when I find a tool that I will use more often. One that will be more valuable to me.
What someone is using this knife for will determine it's value to them. I have one. It was a great buy for it's intended purpose.
My bling bling goes bang bang
As a blacksmith and occasional knife maker I find it somewhat amusing to imply that it's super cheap to forge you own knife. I suppose it is if you already have a blacksmith shop handy, I do but it's not nearly as common as it once was. Also there is the issue of skills and techniques. If you want to make your own knife on the cheap and you don't happen to be a blacksmith, use the stock removal method. That is cheap and easy and many people already have the required tools or can cheaply obtain them. If you use an old saw blade, saw blades are usually medium carbon so they can be hardened to take an ok edge. The payoff is that saw blade requires less finicky thickness thinning than say leaf spring. Forging requires skill and practice, and tools, I'm not saying you can't obtain those things it just requires time, effort, and money. Anvils aren't cheap, but for knife making you can use a big mass of shafting with one face hardened or a 8lb sledge hammer head impeded in a stump with some success. Practice is required. Most stock removal knife makers use relatively expensive belt sanders, but you can use smaller belt sanders like the one Lee Valley sells. If you have some decent files (not PA crap), a grinder with a wire wheel and a hack saw you can make an ok knife it just takes time.
You can never have too much ammo, unless you are drowning, or on fire.
Wise quote. I totally agree
I agree with most of what you said, but anything stainless is not weakened steel. I don't know where you get that from. There are hundreds of different grades of steel, stainless or otherwise. Just because chromium is added does not mean that there aren't many other alloying elements in the steel that contribute many different properties such as toughness, hardness, machinability, and wear resistance. The list is endless. This is what contributes to a raw piece of steel's price-the amount of alloying elements and the processes that were used in its manufacture. Chrome is only one element, just because it's there doesn't mean it's a good piece of steel or even stainless. There needs to be a certain minimum percentage of chrome in the steel to even qualify as stainless. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just don't want people to be misinformed.Understood. The thing about it is that after you've accumulated a whole bunch of cheap knives (or tools) and come to realize that none of them actually fit the bill perfectly and still need to buy more, you've simply wasted your money. Trust me, I've been there in my younger days. I know it may sound counter-intuitive, but if you don't have a bunch of spending cash lying around all the time, you cannot afford to buy cheap! Buy a quality item to begin with and therefore buy it only once. In the long run, you save more money that way.
As for the kind of knives our ancestors used, they were pretty darn good in comparison to 99.9% of the Chinese crap we see flooding the market today, actually. They were made out of solid pieces of carbon steel, hammer forged and heat treated accordingly, then sharpened to a lasting razor-sharp edge that could take a beating and come back for more. I've been interested in DIY knife making for some time now and a well executed home made knife is probably one of the best blades you'll ever carry, as long as you care for it (carbon steel's Achilles heel is that it rusts!). Such knives have excellent edge retention, plus the right hardness and flexibility where it matters in a hard working knife. Also, as a rule of thumb, remember that ANYTHING stainless is weakened steel (regardless of price), because of the chromium added to the melted steel to prevent it from rusting. And, as far as stainless steel goes, 440A is one of the worst/cheapest you can get for blade material. If you want strength and performance, you NEED hammer forged carbon steel with a properly done heat treatment. This is what distinguishes the $300 knife from the $10 knife.
The cool thing about DIY knife making is that, with a little practice, you can easily replicate and even exceed the specs of a $300 knife all by yourself, which is what our ancestors did... and it costs VERY little to boot (often times it's just a piece of junkyard steel and some charcoal for your backyard forge, plus a good hammer and a decent anvil). There are plenty of tutorials available out there (YouTube, etc), as well as detailed courses/DIY manuals.
So, contrary to popular modern belief, our ancestors' knives were FAR from sucky...
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