NC Star Scopes and vz58 rifles

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has anyone had any experience using their compact scopes on a csa vz58? if so which one did you like and how did it perform? im at looking at some of their scopes and im interested in trying one out. i have the csa low profile side mount
 
I can't say I've bought one before, but my impression of them is they are complete junk. Too many useless features and too little primary use for the price. There are lots of other budget scopes and red dots that have decent reviews and warranty out there.
 
My experience with NC Star scopes wasn't a happy one. Calling them junk is understatement. I haven't seen one yet that lasted any time at all and you could find better optical quality in a pop bottle.
 
While passing no judgment on Marstar for selling NC Star products, I believe NC Star is widely considered to be junk. There are vastly better scopes available for not much more money.

The only NC Star product I have purchased that survived is my .308 stripper clips. It's generally true in life, but especially true in guns: What you pay for is what you get, and cry once, buy once.


serbinator said:
has anyone had any experience using their compact scopes on a csa vz58? if so which one did you like and how did it perform? im at looking at some of their scopes and im interested in trying one out. i have the csa low profile side mount
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neoconfection said:
While passing no judgment on Marstar for selling NC Star products, I believe NC Star is widely considered to be junk. There are vastly better scopes available for not much more money.

The only NC Star product I have purchased that survived is my .308 stripper clips. It's generally true in life, but especially true in guns: What you pay for is what you get, and cry once, buy once.
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If you haven't purchased the product why do you think you can speak as to its quality?
 
They are ok as long as you don't put them on anything bigger than a .22 I tried one on my M305 and it would not hold a zero at all after a couple of shots...
 
I have this one https://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=75868
I have not had any problems with it. I have used it on my AR, It holds zero even when removing and putting back on. Lots of features for the price. I have nothing bad to say about it. I have a NCSTAR quad rail for my AR only issue is the screws are too short so I got longer ones for it. I have 2 NCSTAR Bipods for the AR and VZ. They are not high grade military stuff but do the job for a sport shooter. Would I buy another? yes
Here it is on my SKS

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buddy of mine bought one for his..before he sold it....scope would not hold zero at all, he kept having to constantly re-zero it...till finally the adjustment knob fell off.
you get what you pay for...imho I would never spend less than 300.00 for a plinker optic....go for a low end vortex....still very affordable...and a decent optic....with a decent warranty
 
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NCSTAR products are definitely 'on a budget' items. As a few of the comments have stated, though, that doesn't always automatically transfer into being junk (although truthfully sometimes it does and I would be especially cautious about optics). While the old saying "you get what you pay for" is a general truth I am sure that all of us can testify to times when we have both acquired an item that's value seems to surpass its sticker price as well as purchased a high cost item that did not deliver good value for its top dollar price tag. When considering any purchases I always like to check out user reviews as much as possible. Amazon.com is often a good reference point. My own practice here is that if an item has multiple user reviews and averages 4 or more out of 5 then I am fairly confident to proceed. If not, then that is a huge red flag if the actual owners of the item are unsatisfied.
 
BTW, many NC Star scopes now also have lifetime warranties. I have several and never had any problems.
I think they're definitely upping their game.
 
BubbaBoom said:
NCSTAR products are definitely 'on a budget' items. As a few of the comments have stated, though, that doesn't always automatically transfer into being junk (although truthfully sometimes it does and I would be especially cautious about optics). While the old saying "you get what you pay for" is a general truth I am sure that all of us can testify to times when we have both acquired an item that's value seems to surpass its sticker price as well as purchased a high cost item that did not deliver good value for its top dollar price tag. When considering any purchases I always like to check out user reviews as much as possible. Amazon.com is often a good reference point. My own practice here is that if an item has multiple user reviews and averages 4 or more out of 5 then I am fairly confident to proceed. If not, then that is a huge red flag if the actual owners of the item are unsatisfied.
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Not all NCStar scopes fail right out of the box, and not all Amazon reviews are worth the effort to read - lots of reviews are posted before the user even got to try it out. It would be more relevant to read reviews that come from people who have used a scope for 6 months than from someone who just opened the box.

I have experienced NC Star scopes, and my review is already posted in this thread.
 
Mine was broken right out of the box. Zero issue with sending it back and getting a brand new one no questions asked.

Put on my CQA and have had zero issues with it thus far. Holds zero like a champ. Maybe I'm one in a million.
 
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It would be more relevant to read reviews that come from people who have used a scope for 6 months than from someone who just opened the box.
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This of course is totally true. The problem comes in finding such individuals in a timely manner when trying to make a decision. Sometimes on a site like Amazon there will be dozens or even hundred of 'user' reviews so I always put most stock in the ones that indicate a prolonged period of use. The concern that you raise is also one of the concerns that I have with more 'professional' review sources. Often the impressions stated in those contexts are based on a couple of hours use at most on a product that may have been gifted to the individual, so that isn't the most reliable foundation for evaluation either. At the end of the day one needs to make a decision based on the available information at hand in combination with their current disposable income situation. In this particular situation on this site we have users presenting both sides of the coin so it would probably be wise to look into warranty and return policies carefully if leaning to proceed.
 
Another good question to ask of individuals who have had problems with their SKS optics holding zero is how they have them mounted. Some of the mounting platforms on SKS's are inferior and would fail regardless of the quality of the scope attached to them.
 
I have made several attempts to explain this before....
NC Star offer two main lines of products, one is for air soft and pellet rifles....
The other line is for rim fire and center fire rifles....

Some less than ethical dealers will offer air soft and pellet models, which cost less and are not built for firearms, as the "real thing" thus increasing their profit margin....
Marstar sells thousands of NC Star scopes each year, our return rate is very low indeed....
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johnone said:
I have made several attempts to explain this before....
NC Star offer two main lines of products, one is for air soft and pellet rifles....
The other line is for rim fire and center fire rifles....

Some less than ethical dealers will offer air soft and pellet models, which cost less and are not built for firearms, as the "real thing" thus increasing their profit margin....
Marstar sells thousands of NC Star scopes each year, our return rate is very low indeed....
John
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this i did not know. ty for the information
 
johnone said:
I have made several attempts to explain this before....
NC Star offer two main lines of products, one is for air soft and pellet rifles....
The other line is for rim fire and center fire rifles....

Some less than ethical dealers will offer air soft and pellet models, which cost less and are not built for firearms, as the "real thing" thus increasing their profit margin....
Marstar sells thousands of NC Star scopes each year, our return rate is very low indeed....
John
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Totally agree with this statement. Everyone seems to consider them as being junk but they manage to get 3.5-4 out of 5 stars on numerous reviews (100+ reviews)

I too amnstrongly considering their mark 3 tactical and the rubberized mark 3 tacticals for my vz58 once I get a csa side mount for it.
 
if nc star makes 2 different lines of product...how do we know what is what....if they both look exactly the same...and we have to take the "word" of the guy selling them for a profit on which is what....how do we know that the one we are getting is legit?

Maybe they should make them in 2 different series...and make them look different, or have different names..like other scopes do i.e. (crossfire >>>>razor) so the customer knows what they are getting?

Myself, I won't take the chance....and ill buy from a line where I know exactly what I am buying......
 
Well I must apologize, my experience with NCStar optics may indeed be the airsoft quality ones mentioned by johnone. Having spent some time looking at what they have available on their website, I see that marstar has a great deal of ncstar stuff I haven't ever laid eyes on. So yeah I'm eating crow on this one.

With the price on these why not grab one and try it out. I'm betting a lot of our advice is based on experience with much older models (or airsoft level) so they may have improved a great deal since then.
 
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