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    It's the Canadian dollar that kills this stuff, I think.

    I'd be moderately interested at the USD price of $899 at most, but with CAD exchange, plus other fees etc., I think Winstalls is being smart not pursuing these, as I could honestly imagine the CAD price being $1200 - $1300 in the end, which is just WAY too much for this sort of thing.
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    looks like it was made in shop class.
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    Ahem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainamazing View Post
    looks like it was made in shop class.
    Yeah, it does look "after the fact"... kinda reminds me of these stocks: http://www.cbrps.com/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman999 View Post
    It's the Canadian dollar that kills this stuff, I think.

    I'd be moderately interested at the USD price of $899 at most, but with CAD exchange, plus other fees etc., I think Winstalls is being smart not pursuing these, as I could honestly imagine the CAD price being $1200 - $1300 in the end, which is just WAY too much for this sort of thing.
    If its $900usd, then exchange rate alone puts this above $1200...

    I wouldn't agree that Wanstalls is smart in not pursuing these, but I can certainly see how they would see it as too much work for the pay-off. Unless quite a few people buy these, its not worth paying an employee to spend their time trying to procure these. If they need an FRT# still then its even more work, and will take literally years before they reach the store shelfs, and who knows what can happen in that timeframe - Liberal gun grabs, Jard going out of business, another economic crisis...

    In the long run, if these became popular then Wanstalls could make a pretty penny off of them, but in the short term it looks like a lot of effort and risk considering the expected payoff. At the price of $1200+, there are other good options for a NR 9mm carbine rifle, and this would just be another addition to that stable, not some game-changing must-have for everyone.
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    Is this still a possibility or are there any other 9mm bullpups options out there. I thought i heard somewhere that a Tavor can be done in 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybeachboy View Post
    Is this still a possibility or are there any other 9mm bullpups options out there. I thought i heard somewhere that a Tavor can be done in 9mm.
    Yes. Yes. And yes.

    Frt timeline is unknown.
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    I love this. Kind of like the Hi-Point carbines, most hate 'em, owners love 'em, antis fear them ;-) I like it as a novelty range toy, but not for that kind of dough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CravingGlory View Post
    I love this. Kind of like the Hi-Point carbines, most hate 'em, owners love 'em, antis fear them ;-) I like it as a novelty range toy, but not for that kind of dough.
    Oh i bet hi point carbines would be super popular if they were NR. Sadly hi point doesn't give a f*** about our market, otherwise they'd add a few inches to their barrels for us...

    Edit: Maybe if a company such as Wanstalls tried to contact hi point about a special run of NR barreled carbines they might listen to you guys(or at least respond)? I know my numerous attempts have gotten nowhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_SASQUATCH View Post
    I really should know better. But do the same rifles in different calibers need separate FRT#'s? E.g. Xcr-L & Xcr-M ??

    Wouldn't this be in the same vein as the other Jard rifle? Just in 9mm and different magwell location ??
    No. They don't.

    One rifle by make, brand and model gets on parent FRT.

    Change the calibre, or barrel length and you get a new child frt number added to the existing parent FRT.

    Colt Defence AR15a2 and the Colt Defence AR15a3 have different parent frt numbers.

    The colt ar15a2 with a 16 inch barrel in 223 has a different child frt than a colt ar15a2 built with a 20 inch barrel.

    Restricted barrel IWI Tar21 Tavors have the same parent frt number as NR barrel IWI Tar21 Tavors, but different hill numbers.

    The Xcr-L is a different rifle than the Xcr-M. Different lowers for different mag wells. Not the same rifle. So different frt numbers. Two Xcr-L in different calibers or different barrel lengths would have the same parent frt but different child entries under that frt.
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