Let me clarify what I mean by privacy. I have attached the below from the Regulations Amending the Firearms Licenses Regulation. What I was getting at with regards to background checks and stuff is in the latter part of the paragraph regarding the Privacy Act;
Continuous Eligibility Screening recognizes that an individual’s circumstances, including the appropriateness of ongoing firearms possession, change over time. Such screening ensures that certain interactions with law enforcement on the part of firearms owners who are complying with the legal requirements for licensing or registration are brought to the attention of chief firearms officers, if they are recorded in the Canadian Police Information Centre. This allows the authorities to take appropriate action, as required, including revoking a licence and seizing a firearm. When firearms owners become non-compliant (i.e. do not renew a licence), they are no longer within the ambit of the CFP’s jurisdiction. As a result, the Privacy Act, among other legislation, prevents the RCMP from conducting further Continuous Eligibility Screening, thereby withdrawing a meaningful tool that enables the CFP to take pre-emptive measures in dealing with higher-risk firearms owners.
Every Canadian that has an RPAL/PAL is in the federal database as a firearms licensee which CPIC cross-references every time a name is entered into it for any reason,be it a simple interactive conversation with a Constable,a traffic incident,whatever. The Police know,instantly,that an individual is either in the "licensed" or "prohibited/denied" category. It makes no distinction with respect to people who are not licensed. That gives a very good indication to the Officer what type of individual he/she may be dealing with and causes them to govern their approach to the individual accordingly.
Is there any difference as far as the databases go between firearms licensees and the general public?
John Q Public and John Q Public with an RPAL. When a cop pulls you over is there any difference?
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Home club : PCDHFC, shoots IPSC, black rifles, hunts badly
It's well known CPIC is horribly out of date. The auditor generals report on that database basically said it was useless. There have been judges stating they can't do there job imposing sentences because CPIC doesn't show any up to date information. There was a man a few years back that showed no convictions in CPIC but court records in that court house showed 11 at that time. So pretty much if you commit a crime don't commit another crime in the same courts area and you are good to go. Some times the conviction records are never even sent in to the national database.
http://www.sterlingbackcheck.ca/Reso...p-To-Date.aspx
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp...-say-1.2989397
Last edited by KRJ; 05-19-2016 at 08:20 PM.
Ya man a judge can revoke your pal.....but what's all this trash i hear about a cops seizing firearms after a domestic disturbance ? They got too much power....the judge has to revoke it before the cops can touch any firearms should be the rule.....but that never happens...we are law abiding criminals
That is an absolute fact. Poiice personnel are very good at opening CPIC files when there's an interaction,but,are notoriously lax with follow-ups or deletions after matters are concluded,either by no further action or Crown Attorneys dropping or declining to lay charges. I have friends that were caught skinny-dipping at 2AM at a secluded beach in 1966 that were subsequently dropped and never thought about again. Fast forward to 2008 and they get stopped by the US Border Patrol for a routine inspection while crossing at Lewiston,ON. CPIC says they're charged with "public nudity" and the Border Patrol sends them back. They've been married for decades and across the US border dozens of times,but, this time,they got checked. The BS they had to go through to have that record erased was ridiculous. It took their lawyer six months and cost a bundle.
Either you have a criminal record or not. If they're 'dropped' why would they need to get the record erased. I think your friends may have left something out of their story to you. A paper file from 1966 with "dropped" charges would never have made it onto CPIC unless there was a criminal conviction, and even then I'd have to get a 1966 criminal code, but for example it's currently a straight summary offence, which means no fingerprints, which means no "criminal record" because if we don't send prints in it never happened.
CPIC isn't the individual forces' database. "Charges" or their status in an investigation doesn't get updated on CPIC, and the closest information you'd get connecting the two would be release conditions. And those don't generally say what the release conditions are for. (Usually you can guess based on experience, but that's all)
I think there is a rather massive understanding how CPIC works and what impact the day to day work of police actually have on it. For example the only people in our detachment that can update anything on CPIC is our secretaries. My access for lack of a better term is "read-only", and same goes from nearly every officer in my outfit. Some places an NCO has to use CPIC simply because there is no secretary available or trustworthy enough to have access.
City forces use CPIC a lot more than we do, but they use it as a communication method, that's about the only difference that I know of. Someone in a muni force can chime in on that one.