I'm with you on this. It would also prevent any attempt by the RCMP to pull the variant card.Originally Posted by RageStation
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I'm with you on this. It would also prevent any attempt by the RCMP to pull the variant card.
To reverse engineer PS90 and get a production line going is not cheap. Next having to wait a year or two for the RCMP to classify it, is just a poor business decision for anyone and finally let us assume it does happens, it will have sell way better than hotcakes before they can recoup their cost and start making a profit especially at the price points Canadian Firearm owners is willing to pay for a Norinco product.
So if you really want it, come up with the design drawings and purchase order for 10,000 units. I am pretty sure Canada Ammo will get you in touch right people
ALL of which you will have to do with building a 10/22 mod from the ground up. Look if you just drop a 10/22 into a p90 like stock it will be classed a prohib. To avoid that you have to provide a design and sample for testing to the RCMP to get this thing classified as a NEW model of firearm. So how is it any different for time and money seeing as both start the process of modifying one firearm to have the capabilities wished for?
Go with the base p90 as the start and then it is simply a rechambered to .22wmr with modifications to the feeding system. If you go 10/22 the mags will be fed into the bottom of the stock making it more likely to receive the prohib on being a stock that any 10/22 "could" drop into. Going the p90 route mags will be expensive because there would likely need new mags designed to permit the 50 round count people are after.
No matter which way you look at this it is TIME and money. But the p90 route with a non Red Rifle manufacture opens up the sale of it State side as well. That's really the only viable option for the thing to exist. The market in Canada is just not big enough to run risk of a 10/22 mod that may very likely just get canned at the RCMP lab.
How about a short barreled T97 in .22lr?
The factory already has the drawings and they could engineer a pea shooter version.
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This would be cool
PS90 is designed to run on the chamber pressure of the 5.7X28 round witch is about 50,000 psi, the 22 WMR has a pressure rating of 24,000 psi, so a simple modification of chamber and feed system is not going to work. rumors of 22 WMR conversion kit have been floating around since the '90's but no one have been able to make it work with such low pressure.
For future reference it is illegal in Canada to export firearm and firearm technology to China, US's ITAR regulation also made every Canada firearm business sign an end user statement regards to resales of arms to a third country, which is the most important first step in the reverse engineering process.
US firearm importation ban covers all non-sporting rifles not just red rifles, US market is not a option at all.
If if really want PS90 in 22, you are better off talking to to Walther or GSG of Germany than Norinco.
Anybody here good at writing new bills? If we could change the law we wouldn't have to make a new gun.
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May be we may write to all major .22 cal manufacturers??? I bet if we send the text to shooting clubs etc. we'll get easily 5-10 K signatures. this will be the mutual profit-the interested company we'll get targeted market investigation, literally, for free and we'll get our bulpup in 3 years (I hope).
What do you think guys?
Had a chance to see and hold airsoft P90 stock....
Well, definitely, not for the firearm, even for such a low caliber.
Cheap plastic, back wall of the stock creates a feeling that it will fly away with the first shot.
So, it should be a real bullpup from the manufacturer with the incapability to take away from the stock and still fire = barrel and action should disassemble in a way they will still require a stock to fire...
Ruger came back stating that they do not have current plans, but will direct my request to the respective department, to see what market size bullpup ruger 10/22 might have!
Let's hope
Last edited by PECHENEG; 01-17-2015 at 03:59 PM.
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