So if it didn't look like an AR, we wouldn't have had a problem?
Dear RCMP Lab, making yourselves look like morons as an excuse to delay an FRT doesn't make you any better.
So if it didn't look like an AR, we wouldn't have had a problem?
Dear RCMP Lab, making yourselves look like morons as an excuse to delay an FRT doesn't make you any better.
I only JUST found this thread, and that may be a good thing or I may have been pining away for this as well. I definitely want one, very unique and handsome shotgun!
"I like guns, I like the way they look,
I like the shiny steel and the polished wood.
I don´t care if they´re big or small,
if they´re for sale, hell, I want´em all!
I like guns, I like guns, I like guns!"
(Steve Lee)
Nice, Looks like M16 or Norinco M4,eh!
The sooner, the faster.
FRT is Back. Only took 16 months
The design bears no mechanically resemblance to the AR15 action. It is basically a sporting shotgun with a M16 loo-alike stock. the action remains the same.
INSPECTION REPORTAKDALMODEL MKA 1919
SUBJECT OF INSPECTION
Quantity one, Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 guage, semi-automatic shotgun, serial number 10.00593 manufactured by Ucyildiz S Arms Inc.
PURPOSE
The inspection of the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA semi-automatic shotgun, serial number 10.00593, was for the purpose of a legal classification determination. The question being whether it is a restricted firearm or a non restricted firearm.
BACKGROUND
On 2010-06-04 Specialized Firearms Support Services (SFSS), received a parcel containing the subject AKDAL, MKA 1919, 12 ga shotgun serial number 10.00593, which was shipped by Canada Ammo, a distributor located in British Columbia that wishes to import into Canada for commercial resale the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotguns, manufactured by Ucyildiz S Arms ind.co.Ltd; (full name - Ucyildiz Silah San, Ltd), locatedin Istanbul, Turkey.
CONCLUSIONS
- The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 , subject of this inspection, is a gas piston operated variant or modified version of an M-16 rifle. The changes to the mechanism being those in scale and design required to permit the firearm to function as a gas operated, semi automatic firearm utilizing 12 GA X 3” Calibre center-fire shotgun cartridges, rather than the center-fire, gas operated mechanism of the M16 / AR15 firearms’ 223 REM rifle caliber cartridges. The Colt/Armalite “platform” has been adapted to many different calibers; from 22 LR rim-fire to 50 Calibre Beowulf, and while the 12 GA X 3” caliber is an unusual chambering for this type of firearm, it stands with approximately thirteen other non-typical calibers.
- A partial list of calibers of cartridge in which the Colt / Armalite “platform” has been manufactured or adapted to discharge follows: - 6.8 SPC, 50 Beowulf, 9MM LUGER, 40 S&W, 45 AUTO, 10MM AUTO, 458 SOCOM, 22 LR rim-fire, 204 RUGER, 7.62X39 Russian, 7.62MM NATO, 308 Win, 223 REM, 5.56MM NATO, 338 LAPUA & 300 Fireball.
- The mounting holes to mate the upper and lower receiver are located in such a manner that a typical Colt M - 16 / AR 15 split receiver cannot be mated to either the upper or lower receiver of the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA X 3” semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593
4. The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 was found to be a variant or modified version of an M-16 rifle under the Regulations appended to The Criminal Code of Canada S.84 Part 2, Restricted Firearms, Former Restricted Weapons Order Para 2. “The firearm of the design commonly known as the M-16 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the (sub paragraph), (w) any 22-calibre rimfire variant”.
5. The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA X 3 “ Calibre, semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 was found to be a restricted firearm.
6. The FRT record that applies to the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA X 3 “, Calibre, semi-automatic shotgun, serial number 10.00593 is FRT # 132450.
This completes the inspection for legal classification of the - AKDAL, MODEL MKA 1919, SERIAL NUMBER - 10.00593.
Attached you will find a pdf copy of the FRT record for this firearm..
Thank you for permission to utilize images of your firearm on the Firearms Reference Table.
William Etter
William (Bill) Etter
Senior Firearms Technologist
Specialized Firearms Support Services
Firearms Investigative & Enforcement Services Directorate
RCMP - CFP
613-993-6684
m****rf****rS!!!!!!
I can't say much more than that.
Ok, I can. Sounds like Bill's mind was made up the instant he opened the box.
This makes the Henderson case even more important.
DONATE!
Too bad, no nice shotty for me now darn.
Charlie Daniels - What this world needs is a few more rednecks, Some people aint afraid to take a stand
What else can we expect from thoses bastard, they copy and paste the same letter on all submitted firearms, they only replace the name each time
good try, keep the good work...
Un####ingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An M16 does not use a gas piston system?
I don't imagine the gas system or bolt design even comes close to an m16!
So are they gonna Restrict all gas operated semi auto shotguns now? WTF?
Please tell me you are gonna take em to court over this one as well!!!!!!
I know you could prolly just sell em off as restricted, but FFS these ######s need a kick in the teeth!
When I read this :
I too was confused as to how they could speak as such , when so many of those gas-piston 5.56mm rifles are rightfully classed as non-restricted.....The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 , subject of this inspection, is a gas piston operated variant or modified version of an M-16 rifle.
But there is only one person that I see on CGN as being truly despicable by every ethical and moral standards and worse: to be dangerous to the community itself, and that's Cyclone the subversive.
Can this be appealed in any way?
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