Shipping rifles thru Canada Post

[shooter mcgavin]

Okay, I have been to Canada Post's website and even talked to them and get
conflicting answers. I sure could use some clarification on a few things from
those who have done this. First, can you ship a rifle using normal shipping and
not expedited post. 2nd, do you have to actually put 2 pieces of wood on
either side of the firearm to protect it(????) or can I use the factory cardboard
Remington box that my gun came with. 3rd question that I have and it makes
me uneasy but I am told that "non restricted firearm" must be put on the outside
of the carton-would much rather I not advertise whats in the package but this
is what I am being told. Finally, last question, do bullet tips count as dangerous goods
or could they be put in the same box as the rifle(was part of the deal) Can someone out there help a newbie and give some mentoring advice on the best way to do things.

Thanks

[CanAm]

First, do not tell them what is in the box

Second, pack it enough that you would feel comfortable throwing it down a flight of stairs.

Bullets are inert, and require no special treatment.

[shooter mcgavin]

If you don't tell them what it is and it should get lost during shipping, how would
you be able to claim the insurance on the package. I just am wondering if you
would be exposing yourself to some risk but not declaring what it is. I have heard other CGN'rs say also to not tell them what it is. I only want to make
sure I would not be on the hook legally if it did go missing and ended up in the
"wrong hands" so to speak-maybe I worry too much.

[tiriaq]

I believe it is illegal to put "firearm" on the outside of the package.

Pack the thing well. Being chucked down a flight of steps is a good standard for packing. Make sure nothing is going to come loose inside the box, and that no pointy bits are going to wind up sticking out.
Signature on delivery.
Insure it.
You are under no obligation to tell CP that you are mailing a fiream.

How many firearms do you think CanAm has mailed?

[shooter mcgavin]

Here is part of the email that was sent to me when I contacted CP's customer
service.
This is where my confusion starts as you will see.

-Firearms (Including Imitation and Replica Firearms) have special restrictions on how or to whom they may be shipped. These items must be properly prepared and meet applicable requirements for mailing.

-The sender may ship restricted firearms, non-restricted firearms and prohibited handguns from one Canadian location to another Canadian location.

-When it is determined permissible to ship firearms, the item will need to be shipped using Expedited Parcel with Proof of Age with Signature for contract customers and Regular Parcel with Signature for non-contract customers.

- The package cover bears the information that it contains a non-restricted firearm.

[CanAm]

If you don't tell them what it is and it should get lost during shipping, how would
you be able to claim the insurance on the package. I just am wondering if you
would be exposing yourself to some risk but not declaring what it is. I have heard other CGN'rs say also to not tell them what it is. I only want to make
sure I would not be on the hook legally if it did go missing and ended up in the
"wrong hands" so to speak-maybe I worry too much.

You do not need to tell them to buy the insurance. You tell them when they ask for the insurance claim.

[waynesixgun]

Same as shipping golf clubs..you can even use an empty golf club box.

[Questar]

Here is part of the email that was sent to me when I contacted CP's customer
service.
This is where my confusion starts as you will see.

-Firearms (Including Imitation and Replica Firearms) have special restrictions on how or to whom they may be shipped. These items must be properly prepared and meet applicable requirements for mailing.

-The sender may ship restricted firearms, non-restricted firearms and prohibited handguns from one Canadian location to another Canadian location.

-When it is determined permissible to ship firearms, the item will need to be shipped using Expedited Parcel with Proof of Age with Signature for contract customers and Regular Parcel with Signature for non-contract customers.

- The package cover bears the information that it contains a non-restricted firearm.

Write back to the CP Customer Service person that sent you the email and ask them to verify the last item... it is in fact against Federal Regulations to mark on the outside of the box that a firearm is inside... specifically not allowed under the regulations for transport.

The rest of the email appears correct. If you do some searching you'll find that the Canada Post regulations for shipping firearms are posted on the Canada Post website and they are very specific and clear. They DO NOT include anything about marking on the outside of the box that a firearm is contained inside.

Mark

[formerfarmer]

As the dealers above and everyone else say. Original box with a little extra padding, ideal. Wrap in plain brown paper,lots, and ship. I have received many firearms through the mail and never had a problem. Even watched the mail man drop my 17HMR when he tripped getting out of his truck. No harm to the rifle due to good packaging.

[shooter mcgavin]

Okay, I found what you guys are talking about on Canada Post's website under
section 3.3 I believe-this is what it says.

Customers who wish to ship firearms must :

unload the firearms
attach a secure locking device to the firearms
lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container and
remove the bolt or bolt carrier from any automatic firearms (if removable).
It also said it cannot say on the package that it contains a firearm(makes sense)
This totally goes against the email that the customer rep sent me this morning
and most likely would have ended up in my gun being tied up at some postal
outlet because it does not conform to CP's regulations and policies.
Thanks again guys for all the good advice-you proved to be correct and I now
know what to do.