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[md519]

So.......

[Epoxy7]

Sorry I hijacked this thread like a limo in Rio.

I think that anyone who attempted this would want to have more money set aside for the lawyer than for the gun. Like ten times more.

Despite what may seem like a solid legal basis, I think we can agree that a whole swathe of agencies would be very unhappy with this happening.

And good lord, I'd hate to piss off agencies.

You're right about the setting money aside. Also you might want to have all your incoming mail for the next couple of years forwarded to Kingston Ontario Care of the Warden.

As for it being "a solid legal basis". No actually it's not. This doesn't even qualify as rational thought.

Powerwagon's legal advice is solid providing you want to lose a ton of money on legal bills, have all your firearms seized, risk doing time in jail, have a criminal record and never own firearms legally again. If this is the case then Powerwagon's advice is right on the money.

[Tikka223]

Canada isnt as bad as the USA when it comes to scary "agencies" but if you start trying to illegally (think of the customs act) import rifles, and let's face it, these are assault rifles, you will very quickly become the center of someone's attention. Keep in mind the current security atmosphere involving everything from terrorism to organized crime. If I was to try and push for something to get approved for sale in Canada my best be would be to lobby both FN to hurry up and provide the information needed for approval, and the RCMP to get it done.

[7.92X33Kurz]

This has been a long thread to read but I would like to make a few comments.

First, there have been a lot of people complaining about having their $ 4,200 tied up for over a year. I can certainly see the point. But what about the alternatives? Would you have spent it on something else or perhaps wasted it on a bunch of crap? It does not matter, this is where you have put your money so accept it. If these rifles are approved, and from the thread it is likely they will be, if you have held on you will be able to sell it for about $10,000 or more because it is rare and not likely that any more will see our country for some time if at all.

Second, have you handled one of these? If you have then you know that they are mighty fine rifles and well worth any wait. I was just in Montana where $2,500 a drivers license and 15 minutes will get you one (don't get me started) and they are really an awesome rifle.

Third, you only have to wait. You don't have the headaches that Questar is going through. And if the rifle is not approved you get your money back. Opportunity cost...hmmmm...2 year GICs at less than 2.00% for lets say two years = $168.00 or a few cases of beer. Questar on the other hand has had plenty of time and money into this and what happens if they have to return them? Likely FNH USA is not going to offer a full refund and if they have to sell them on Gunbroker at $2,499.00 a pop it will take time and they will only earn (50 rifles x 250 per rifle) = $12,500 which likely will not even cover their costs to date.

So if I were you I would just sit tight, wait, and act when a decision is finally made. You will either make off like a bandit or you'll get your money back and be out a few cases of beer.

And to the guy talking about illegally importing one I can only say two things: I hope you don't have a family and get your head out of your ass!

Lastly, I agree completely that Questar should be providing monthly status reports to the the people who have put up the money. It does not have to be on this venue but as part of a good customer service program it would be in their best interest. First because its right and second because if the rifles do not make it through the process there are going to be 50 people with $ 4,200 each to spend and where do you think they will go depending on how they have been treated?

Kurz

[geotensor]

Sounds like the firearms tech are having a hard time trying to prohibit this rifle. Make no mistake, they'll find a bs reason, just like they did with the Akdal 1919.

[rivetc78]

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[ShooterPHD]

there is no law that says the firearm has to be in the FRT. the law is clear on what is or is not a Non-restricted firearm.

the FRT is not law. it is just a classification system for firearms for the RCMP. it is not prescribed prohibited, is not full auto. if the barrel length is right then there is no legal reason (Canadian side) that you cannot import one. yes i am aware of the US export stuff, just talking about the Canadian stuff.

...well you're incorrect on the "Canadian stuff" too. The RCMP happen to be the agency in charge of determining the classification of firearms in Canada. It is not up to you and your interpration of the criminal code of what is a non-restricted, restricted or prohibited firearm in Canada.

If it were only that simple!?!

[rivetc78]

The RCMP happen to be the agency in charge of determining the classification of firearms in Canada.

The RCMP assigns an identification number. They use the criminal code to determine the classification, they don't decide either.

It is not up to you and your interpretation of the criminal code of what is a non-restricted, restricted or prohibited firearm in Canada.

Well it actually is up to us! The law is written. If we follow the law, no problem. It is also not up to the RCMP .




The comments made here are in reply to the discussion of the criminal code. They are not directed in any way to the importer/dealer of these firearms.

[Dorian Gray]

Soooooo much bs...Here's to hoping you get your rifles guys. I love the look of them.

[rafael69]

Hey Blaxson

is there any one selling the Beratta ARX? Cause I definatley would want to get one of those