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    http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...9-13-2-eng.pdf

    Pg.14.

    Exception: The following goods generally do not meet the definition of prohibited weapon, and thus do not fall under tariff item 9898.00.00. Their misuse may nonetheless be punishable under other laws:

    (b) Collapsible batons (telescopic batons, police-style batons) Batons consisting of sections of different diameter metal or other tubing that nestle inside one another when closed, and through a flick of the wrist extend outwards into a baton, with each section lodging securely inside the adjoining one; no spring is found in the instrument or device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindeyes View Post
    They are illegal.
    Wrong. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geologist View Post
    Wrong. Try again.
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    seems odd to me that this is a product you could walk into a store and purchase without any issue at all, however as soon as you put it in your pocket and step outside that store you are now breaking the law?? how screwed up is that.

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    Is a baseball bat illegal? (Check with a lawyer on this one)

    What if you use it to bash somebody in the noggin a couple of times to get his attention? (that would be the misuse idea maybe?)

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    Uh...wow. Was in your site and clicked on "Survival essentials" and got a page full of chinese characters.While cool looking, I don't read chinese. Might have a problem there.
    Rest of site is nice. I admit to being one of those people that need pictues and it's good to see you have them. Looking forward to your new webpage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raynor View Post
    A weapon is defined by intent. If your statement was true, swords, axes, etc. would be illegal as well... which they are not.
    No, the definition of a weapon is found in the Criminal Code as follows:

    "weapon means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use
    (a) in causing death or injury to any person, or
    (b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person"

    Swords and batons, by definition, are weapons because they are a thing, designed to be used in causing death or injury to any person. Axes that are designed for cutting wood are only weapons when they are used or intended for use in causing death or injury to any person, or for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person.

    Possessing a sword or a baton for the sole purpose of picking your nose, does not nullify it as a weapon. It is a weapon, by design, and is so defined under law. When you possess a wood axe, it is NOT a weapon unless you use/intend to use it to cause or threaten harm.

    So lets make this clear: Possessing a weapon is not illegal, unless its possession is specifically prohibited (such as spiked wristbands, brass knuckles, shuriken, etc). Ownership of collapsible batons is not prohibited in Canada. However, law does regulate the manner in which these weapons can be possessed. Specifically, as previously stated, they can not be carried in a concealed manner, and they cannot be possessed for a purpose dangerous to the public peace, or for committing an offense.

    In regards to possession for a dangerous purpose, all circumstances of a situation are up for consideration. These circumstances may include (but not limited to) the place you were found in possession of a weapon (a sword at a medieval reenactment event as opposed to a school playground), the manner in which you possessed the item (a baton on the passenger seat as opposed to the trunk), AND your description of what you intended to do with the weapon. If any of these circumstances suggest that it is reasonable or probable to believe you may be in possession of the weapon for a dangerous purpose, you can and most likely will be charged. Conviction, which requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt, is another story... you'll get the chance to prove your true intent in-front of a judge and/or jury. This will be a long, long process, and require the very expensive services of a lawyer.

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    is these any warranty on these baton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwater View Post
    No, the definition of a weapon is found in the Criminal Code as follows:

    "weapon means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use
    (a) in causing death or injury to any person, or
    (b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person"

    Swords and batons, by definition, are weapons because they are a thing, designed to be used in causing death or injury to any person. Axes that are designed for cutting wood are only weapons when they are used or intended for use in causing death or injury to any person, or for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person.

    Possessing a sword or a baton for the sole purpose of picking your nose, does not nullify it as a weapon. It is a weapon, by design, and is so defined under law. When you possess a wood axe, it is NOT a weapon unless you use/intend to use it to cause or threaten harm.

    So lets make this clear: Possessing a weapon is not illegal, unless its possession is specifically prohibited (such as spiked wristbands, brass knuckles, shuriken, etc). Ownership of collapsible batons is not prohibited in Canada. However, law does regulate the manner in which these weapons can be possessed. Specifically, as previously stated, they can not be carried in a concealed manner, and they cannot be possessed for a purpose dangerous to the public peace, or for committing an offense.

    In regards to possession for a dangerous purpose, all circumstances of a situation are up for consideration. These circumstances may include (but not limited to) the place you were found in possession of a weapon (a sword at a medieval reenactment event as opposed to a school playground), the manner in which you possessed the item (a baton on the passenger seat as opposed to the trunk), AND your description of what you intended to do with the weapon. If any of these circumstances suggest that it is reasonable or probable to believe you may be in possession of the weapon for a dangerous purpose, you can and most likely will be charged. Conviction, which requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt, is another story... you'll get the chance to prove your true intent in-front of a judge and/or jury. This will be a long, long process, and require the very expensive services of a lawyer.
    It still does not make them illegal to possess.
    Intention to use in causing death or injury, or threatening or intimidating any person, is illegal.... it also makes a baseball bat, hammer, or even a toaster, illegal for such a purpose... making them a weapon defined by intent.

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