Any Plans for a .308 AR? MAJOR UPDATE MAY 8 2014

[kbun]

Maybe a dumb question but any chance this could be chambered in 223?

[zupermann]

[QUOTE=alberta tactical rifle;6615516]

, or would anyone be willing to take a chance on buying something that should be non restricted, uses Magpul or DPMS style AR10 mags, an AR10 bolt/chargeing handle and most AR furniture and IS accurate?

DPMS mags are better, unless maybe you're planning on modifying Norinco M14 mags (cheaper supply?) to use in your future rifle.

Do you think it'll be non restricted? Or would it be "AR" enough to be classified as one? (restricted)

[alberta tactical rifle]

Maybe a dumb question but any chance this could be chambered in 223?

IF we can make this fly with the feds, to scale it down to 223 is a possibility, but for now the plan is 308 parent case only.

[alberta tactical rifle]

[QUOTE=zupermann;6625318]

DPMS mags are better, unless maybe you're planning on modifying Norinco M14 mags (cheaper supply?) to use in your future rifle.

Do you think it'll be non restricted? Or would it be "AR" enough to be classified as one? (restricted)

The whole idea of this project is to try and build something that the feds will not claim is an AR variant.
There is no predicting what they will come back with. Several firearms have been deemed prohib based solely on look. The GSG-5 comes to mind. Despite there not being 1 single part that is interchangeable with the H&K MP5 the RCMP deemed the gun a prohib simply because it looks like an MP5.

To my thinking all of humanity should take great offense at this sort of logic or lack thereof as it would indicate that all woman are prostitutes simply because they look like females and that every guy must be a rapist simply because he has the hardware from birth.

What really NEEDS to happen in this country is for the gun culture to file an action against the government rather than just weak lobbying in order to get firearms laws and the RCMP both tuned up and brought into the 21st century.
Modular firearms are the firearms of today yet by their thought process if it was applied to the automobile we would all be forced to drive Model Ts

[zupermann]

^^^That's right, and you'll be totally at their mercy in regards to classification, and this WILL affect sales. But they don't care, because the "culture" of this country is to discourage shooting of any kind (except for police and military).

If you do submit a sample or a picture for an FRT # or classification. Send one in with wood-like furniture. Your chances of non restricted approval will probably be better

[Ohno]

Guess you guys don't know about the AR10 ??

AR10?? What the hell is that. Dont come in here, trying to ruin this thread, by making up fake fire arms. If this AR15 lookalike 308 existed Iam sure it would have been mentioned in the first two pages. Twice.

[alberta tactical rifle]

^^^That's right, and you'll be totally at their mercy in regards to classification, and this WILL affect sales. But they don't care, because the "culture" of this country is to discourage shooting of any kind (except for police and military).

If you do submit a sample or a picture for an FRT # or classification. Send one in with wood-like furniture. Your chances of non restricted approval will probably be better

The plan is use a Magpul PRS and a very basic non railed free float tube, most likley the PRI carbon fiber fore end.
The only parts that will interchange with an AR10 will be mags, furniture, bolt head, barrel extension, and the gas tube the rest of the parts will be dedicated to this firearm only.
We are going to incorporate the FN FAL style side charge handle as well as a 4lb match type single stage trigger. The mag release is on the right hand side of the "lower assembly" .
There may not be a last round hold open device as that is something that belongs on an assault rifle, we are still contemplating this feature.
The plan is to eliminate the take down pins as this is being made as a "sporting rifle" so fast takedown really is not required like an assault rifle needs to be.
It will be called the "Modern Hunter" and be fitted with an 18.75" or 475 mm long barrel to comply with the non restricted definition.

Thoughts so far??

[LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1]

The plan is use a Magpul PRS and a very basic non railed free float tube, most likley the PRI carbon fiber fore end.
The only parts that will interchange with an AR10 will be mags, furniture, bolt head, barrel extension, and the gas tube the rest of the parts will be dedicated to this firearm only.
We are going to incorporate the FN FAL style side charge handle as well as a 4lb match type single stage trigger. The mag release is on the right hand side of the "lower assembly" .
There may not be a last round hold open device as that is something that belongs on an assault rifle, we are still contemplating this feature.
The plan is to eliminate the take down pins as this is being made as a "sporting rifle" so fast takedown really is not required like an assault rifle needs to be.
It will be called the "Modern Hunter" and be fitted with an 18.75" or 475 mm long barrel to comply with the non restricted definition.

Thoughts so far??

I think the takedown pins are very convinient and if you can use them in your design the better.

Same with the bolt catch. But I could live without it if I had to.

But so far it sound really good.

[Satain]

The plan is use a Magpul PRS and a very basic non railed free float tube, most likley the PRI carbon fiber fore end.
The only parts that will interchange with an AR10 will be mags, furniture, bolt head, barrel extension, and the gas tube the rest of the parts will be dedicated to this firearm only.
We are going to incorporate the FN FAL style side charge handle as well as a 4lb match type single stage trigger. The mag release is on the right hand side of the "lower assembly" .
There may not be a last round hold open device as that is something that belongs on an assault rifle, we are still contemplating this feature.
The plan is to eliminate the take down pins as this is being made as a "sporting rifle" so fast takedown really is not required like an assault rifle needs to be.
It will be called the "Modern Hunter" and be fitted with an 18.75" or 475 mm long barrel to comply with the non restricted definition.

Thoughts so far??

[zupermann]

It will be called the "Modern Hunter" and be fitted with an 18.75" or 475 mm long barrel to comply with the non restricted definition.

Thoughts so far??

Wow, lots of things to consider. Direct gas impingement? Adjustable gas block? Short stroke piston?

A bolt hold open would be desirable (or leave it in the design so one can be retrofitted if you feel that including one makes it too "assault" rifle-ish for non-restricted classification). Even if it is mag actuated only (such as on the Yugo AK's---as soon as the mag is removed, the bolt closes).

Lack of "quick takedown pins? Just as long as it's easy to clean the vitals/receiver--which on a DGI design carbon/dirt gets in lots of places.

I'm not so hot personally on hunting (modern hunter version) rifles, but would have my (and others') interest in a heavy barrel varmint/long range version of your rifle. Incorporating the ability to accept "tacticool" aftermarket accessories would only help your market appeal to the widest amount of people possible.

Anyway, just a couple of quick thoughts....