SW M&P .22 25 round mag issue

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As I'm sure you're aware people who bought the SW M&P .22 in the last year got a 25 round mag which is now prohib and the RCMP is going after these mags actively.

North Silva apparently is willing to alter, or replace the mag to a 10 round capacity, and the RCMP has indicated that this is one way we can deal with the problem.

I am sure there will be other interested people - can you provide us with the details?

What shipping address?
Do you provide documentation that we have turned in our mag which will satisfy the RCMP, or do you contact them?
etc

Thank you.
 
i was told by a fellow over the phone when i called the cfc that it's perfectly fine to have the 25 round mags as long as you didnt put it in the pistol version therefore making it prohib, but hey each to thier own.
 
s3xspert11 said:
i was told by a fellow over the phone when i called the cfc that it's perfectly fine to have the 25 round mags as long as you didnt put it in the pistol version therefore making it prohib, but hey each to thier own.
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I don't believe that is correct. The 25 round magazine is itself a prohibited device as it was designed to be used in a pistol. It doesn't matter if it has ever actually been used in a pistol or not.

CFP Special Bulletin for Businesses No. 72 said:
1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns

Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.

Example:
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:

the 10 round magazine is unregulated
the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device
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I received a notice from the RCMP that I was noted to have ownership of this rifle, and therefore, at least one of these (25 round M&P 15-22 magazine), and I had three choices:
1) Have North Silva alter them to take only 10 rounds
2) Exchange the 25 rounders for 10 rounders at " a business that is licensed to possess and acquire prohibited devices
3) Surrender the magazine to the police for disposal
I tried calling North Silva to see how to go about sending in my mags for conversion, but only got voice mail, and emails wouldn't go through!
I am to advise the CFP withing 40 days (dated from Sept.6/11..received Sept.14/11)
which option I was going to pursue.
If I don't respond within that time period, "the matter will be referred to your local law enforcement agency."
Stay tuned for the next thrilling installment of "Bloated, Renegade Federal Agency Upholding Arcane and Antiquated Regulations by Bullying Innocent, Law Abiding Gun Owner"....it's going to be a 'cliff-hanger... nail-biter'.....Fo shizel!
 
It seems completely clear that the 25 rnd mag is prohib now. People are getting registered mail from the RCMP exactly as stated by foxbat. Myself included.

As per the discussions elsewhere on this forum, destroying the mag yourself is probably a mistake, as you have no proof that you destroyed it. If you don't want the RCMP on your back, it seems that you need documentation that the mag was disposed of in one of the 3 ways noted above.

As for option 3: I really don't want to be going down to my local police division and having this discussion with them.

As for option 2: the store that sold me this gun "knows nothing" about how to deal with the matter and referred me to North Silva.

So here we are...
 
BlaqueJacqueShallaque said:
As per the discussions elsewhere on this forum, destroying the mag yourself is probably a mistake, as you have no proof that you destroyed it. If you don't want the RCMP on your back, it seems that you need documentation that the mag was disposed of in one of the 3 ways noted above.
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Is this still not Canada? Innocent until proven guilty. If the word of a law abiding Canadian Citizen is not good enough for them, then we have a lot more problems then this mag issue, the provincial election and anything else. At some point, we will have to take back our Canada, I just hope there is something worthwhile left to reclaim.

This among many other things is the reason why the whole Firearms Act must be thrown out.
 
#1bcshooter said:
How hard can it be to drill a small hole & insert a roll pin !
LOL
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Will the RCMP accept that? Will they want you to take this somewhere to confirm it? Inquiring minds...

Fixing the mag yourself was not one of the options offeredin the letter we are receiving. I suspect that doing it yourself would be little better than detroying it in terms of getting them to leave you alone.
 
BlaqueJacqueShallaque said:
Will the RCMP accept that? Will they want you to take this somewhere to confirm it? Inquiring minds...

Fixing the mag yourself was not one of the options offeredin the letter we are receiving. I suspect that doing it yourself would be little better than detroying it in terms of getting them to leave you alone.
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My Chiappa M-four came from the dealer with the 28 rnd mag with a pin through it to stop the follower at 10 rnds .
Thankfully the Chiappa takes standard Black Dog mags so the OEM mag won't see much use once they show up :D
 
so I am sort of freaking out, I turned mine in months ago at the store I bought the AR15-22 and traded them for 10 rounders and I don't have a receipt. The store was sending them out to be converted....so now what?
 
NoDanger said:
so I am sort of freaking out, I turned mine in months ago at the store I bought the AR15-22 and traded them for 10 rounders and I don't have a receipt. The store was sending them out to be converted....so now what?
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So??? Get a receipt from the store regarding the 10 round mags you purchased (you purchased them through trading other mags for them, still a purchase).
 
Tuco Pike said:
So??? Get a receipt from the store regarding the 10 round mags you purchased (you purchased them through trading other mags for them, still a purchase).
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Yes, that is the obvious answer, but in the letter from the horsemen, it says "Exchange the 25-shot magazine for a 10-shot magazine at a business that is licensed to possess and acquire prohibited devices"....so what if that business is not licensed to possess and acquire prohibited devices? I don't want to start a #### storm since they have always been good to me....but I don't want got get my own ass in trouble neither...
 
NoDanger said:
Yes, that is the obvious answer, but in the letter from the horsemen, it says "Exchange the 25-shot magazine for a 10-shot magazine at a business that is licensed to possess and acquire prohibited devices"....so what if that business is not licensed to possess and acquire prohibited devices? I don't want to start a s**t storm since they have always been good to me....but I don't want got get my own ass in trouble neither...
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Obviously you exchanged them before this letter arrived so not your problem
 
Is there an aftermarket high-capacity magazine that works in the MP-22, without breaking any laws?

As long as the magazine is labeled as a rimfire rifle magazine, it should be all good.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
Is there an aftermarket high-capacity magazine that works in the MP-22, without breaking any laws?

As long as the magazine is labeled as a rimfire rifle magazine, it should be all good.
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No, there are aftermarket NORMAL capacity magazines, whose normal capacity range from 30 to 100 rounds I believe (check with Questar). And labeled as a rimfire magazine is NOT good. The magazines in question are labeled as rimfire, it is because S&W marketed it for both the pistol and rifle version. Damn the firearms act, and those that implemented it.
 
mp 15/22 magazines

Dexter Morgan said:
Is there an aftermarket high-capacity magazine that works in the MP-22, without breaking any laws?

As long as the magazine is labeled as a rimfire rifle magazine, it should be all good.
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Blackdog makes a 50rd drum magazine. Questar has them in stock.
Ordered one today.
 
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