Svt rifles

[Caleb314]

All their ex-snipers SVTs are out of stock so I guess they were?( limited number that sold out fast) or did they realize they only had the rails and no notch so they removed them from the site.

To those who don't know up until 1942 most of the SVTs had the rails to accommodate the scope but lacked the retaining notch at the rear of the receiver only true sniper rifles had them. Only around 50 000 snipers were made out of the 1.6 million.

That's what we are inquiring about( not complaining) wether these just had rails or if they had the notch to.

[jwillmoore]

All their ex-snipers SVTs are out of stock so I guess they were?( limited number that sold out fast) or did they realize they only had the rails and no notch so they removed them from the site.

Another scenario exist, as they didn't confirm the notch therefore the rifles weren't snipers and they just declared them out of stock.

Do not forget you confirmed only a small number of snipers were ever made so what are the chances that Marstar landed a batch of notched real snipers?

Having said that, this is all speculation the only people that know these rifles are Marstar and they have been silent on confirming the notches and whether these rifles are real factory snipers

[johnone]

All their ex-snipers SVTs are out of stock so I guess they were?( limited number that sold out fast) or did they realize they only had the rails and no notch so they removed them from the site.

To those who don't know up until 1942 most of the SVTs had the rails to accommodate the scope but lacked the retaining notch at the rear of the receiver only true sniper rifles had them. Only around 50 000 snipers were made out of the 1.6 million.

That's what we are inquiring about( not complaining) wether these just had rails or if they had the notch to.

Good morning;
It would appear that our mistake was not putting up specific detailed pictures, however that is now irrelevant as an off shore dealer was happy to pick them all up as there were not that many (just under 50)

Some had the "notch" some did not, ALL had the correct serial number prefixes indicating sniper versions.
I hope this addresses all the theories and questions put forth here.
John

[Smitsauce]

Good morning;
It would appear that our mistake was not putting up specific detailed pictures, however that is now irrelevant as an off shore dealer was happy to pick them all up as there were not that many (just under 50)

Some had the "notch" some did not, ALL had the correct serial number prefixes indicating sniper versions.
I hope this addresses all the theories and questions put forth here.
John

John,

Better get your flame suit on!!!! Here comes the Marstar bashing in 3..2..1..

[desporterizer]

Good morning;
It would appear that our mistake was not putting up specific detailed pictures, however that is now irrelevant as an off shore dealer was happy to pick them all up as there were not that many (just under 50)

Some had the "notch" some did not, ALL had the correct serial number prefixes indicating sniper versions.
I hope this addresses all the theories and questions put forth here.
John

Serial prefix means nothing, the notch means everything. What dealer? Maybe I could buy one back.

[johnone]

Serial prefix means nothing, the notch means everything. What dealer? Maybe I could buy one back.

I respectfully suggest you do a little research on the numbering and marking of this version....
John

[fenceline]

I respectfully suggest you do a little research on the numbering and marking of this version....
John

Like this threads first pistol...

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum...ght=Svt+sniper

Greetings to all!
I'm making a research about SVT sniper rifles. And I think this board is a right place to gather additional information about sniper rifle serials.
As many of you know, SVT sniper rifles were officially produced at plant #314 in Tula (March-September 1941), and at plant #314 in Mednogorsk (March - October 1942).
All sniper rifles were groupped in letter prefixes. But approach to SVT sniper rifles production in 1941 and 1942 was a different.
1941 snipers mostly were marked with C mark at the right side of the reciever. But some correct sniper rifles are missing this C mark.
All 1941 snipers had numeric prefixes less than xx 2000. Regular rifles can have sniper prefixes, but numeric prefix will be higher than 2000. There is one exception - in one known sniper prefix, НБ, few regular rifles are known with numeric prefix less than 2000. I don't know why this happened, but I have one assumption. I have another research about conformity of letter prefix and production month, and presumably НБ prefix rifles were produced at the beginning of July, just after war beginning, and it could cause some problems
Barrels for 1941 sniper rifles were produced separately. Mounts were attached to rifle at the factory, and stamped with full rifle serial number
1942 snipers are also grouped in prefixes, but regular and sniper rifles are mixed randomly in one prefix. All 1942 snipers don't had C proofmark at the right side of the receiver. There was no separate production of sniper barrels in 1942, when plant #314 was located in Mednogorsk. Best barrels were selected and used at sniper rifles. 1942 mounts were stamped only with numeric prefix.

So here is list sniper rifles that are currently known to me. Please add serials that you know.

Serial numbers of sniper SVT's produced at factory #314 (Tula\Mednogorsk)

1941
ЖБ 310
ЖБ 398
ЖБ 410 mount
ЖБ 535
ЖБ 94х mount
ЖБ 1034 mount
ЖБ 1075 mount
ЖБ 1395
ЖК 343 NIPSVO test rifle
ЖК 1284
ИБ 1061 mount
ИБ 1263
ИБ 1526
ИБ 1863
ИК 349
ИК 475
ИК 9хх mount
ИК 900
ИК 923
ИК 12xx
ИК 1400
ИК 1503 mount
ИМ 666 mount
ЛБ 513
ЛБ 865
ЛБ 1842
ЛБ 1968
ЛК 1335 mount
ЛК 1497 mount
ЛК 1892 mount
ЛК 1989
НА 483 mount
НА 6хх
НА 692
НА 1374
НБ 320
НБ 963
НБ 1863
НВ 1391
НВ 1660 (no C proofmark)
НЖ 140
НЖ 1339 mount
НЖ 1649 (no C proofmark)
НЖ 1754 mount
НЖ 1936 mount
НИ 3хх mount
НИ 1260
НИ 1269
НИ 1301
ПА 801
ПВ 273 mount
ПВ 663
СА 650 (no C proofmark)
СА 810
СА 863
СА 1645 mount
СБ х12 mount
СБ 350
СБ 1843
СВ 181 mount
СВ 372 mount
СВ 1063
СВ 1ххх
СВ 1753
СГ 143
СГ 747
СГ 1163
СГ 1845 mount
СГ 1889 mount
СИ 350
ТБ 246 mount
ТБ 267
ТБ 377
ТВ 116 don't have C proofmark

1942 (all don't have C proofmark)
ДГ 3450
НА 7403
НБ 104 NIPSVO test rifle
НБ 1757 NIPSVO test rifle
НБ 2625 NIPSVO test rifle
НБ 5125
НБ 6972
НБ 7396 NIPSVO test rifle
НВ 1322
HB 2945 NIPSVO test rifle
HB 6329
СА 2421
СА 3492
CA 6693
СА 7030
СБ 4379
СБ 7099
СБ 7321
СБ 7770
СВ 520
СГ 111х
СГ2004
ФВ 3883 unusual notch ???
ФВ 7149

ХХ 2851 mount
ХХ 3285 mount
XX 5115 mount
ХХ 7238 mount museum, Kiev

As noted in the bold text, regular and sniper versions were mixed together in 1942 with the same prefixes, in 1941 some were marked with a C and some were not.

Prefixes alone do not make a sniper in all years.

[desporterizer]

Considering that the scope mount requires the notch as an attachment point no svt could be called a sniper without it.

[Redmaple]

It is sad to know that when Marstar makes a rare purchase (sniper SVT-40), they ignore the Canadians that keep them in business in favour of a quick overseas sale. I'll remember it the next time I make a purchase...

[surly]

No notch not a sniper!