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    Not too sure about that. Most reloading books have "blackhawk and T/C" only loads listed. 250 gr at 1300fps ain't nonthing to sniff at.



    Quote Originally Posted by MustangFrank View Post
    The following was taken from Chuck Hawks website :

    Traditional factory loads for the .45 Colt drive a 250 grain lead bullet at a MV of about 860 fps and ME of 410 ft. lbs

    The original Remington factory loads for the .44 magnum advertised a 240 grain SWC lead bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 1470 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 1120 ft. lbs.

    The SAAMI maximum average pressure for the .45 Colt is 14,000 psi. The .45's big case, which actually has somewhat greater capacity than the .44 Magnum case, is also why so many shooters/reloaders have (falsely) assumed that it can safely be "magnumized." But this is not the case, as the big .45's pressure limit is nowhere near magnum levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bollox View Post
    Not too sure about that. Most reloading books have "blackhawk and T/C" only loads listed. 250 gr at 1300fps ain't nonthing to sniff at.
    The information I posted is accurate. It also does not take into account loads that are safe in Marlin lever actions. Do you think a brass frame Rossi is up to the pressure ?? On the other hand, it is able to withstand .44 Magnum pressure. I think the manufacturer should be contacted to see if they will warrantee a Magnum loaded .45LC. No use arguing about it.
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    I've got a rossi in .44 Mag and all I can say is holy hell, every time I shoot it. And that's with light loads.
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    wow , 2 days later its on my doorstep. THANK YOU BLUELINE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaywill View Post
    wow , 2 days later its on my doorstep. THANK YOU BLUELINE!
    You are very welcome, glad we could help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangFrank View Post
    The information I posted is accurate. It also does not take into account loads that are safe in Marlin lever actions. Do you think a brass frame Rossi is up to the pressure ?? On the other hand, it is able to withstand .44 Magnum pressure. I think the manufacturer should be contacted to see if they will warrantee a Magnum loaded .45LC. No use arguing about it.
    FWIW the Rossi is available in .454 Casull, which is basically a lengthened, hopped up .45 Colt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangFrank View Post
    The following was taken from Chuck Hawks website :

    Traditional factory loads for the .45 Colt drive a 250 grain lead bullet at a MV of about 860 fps and ME of 410 ft. lbs

    The original Remington factory loads for the .44 magnum advertised a 240 grain SWC lead bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 1470 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 1120 ft. lbs.

    The SAAMI maximum average pressure for the .45 Colt is 14,000 psi. The .45's big case, which actually has somewhat greater capacity than the .44 Magnum case, is also why so many shooters/reloaders have (falsely) assumed that it can safely be "magnumized." But this is not the case, as the big .45's pressure limit is nowhere near magnum levels.
    .45 LC is not .45 Colt.

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    .45 Colt and .45 Long Colt are the exact same cartridge.

    From Wikipedia

    "The .45 Colt cartridge is a handgun cartridge dating to 1872. It began as a black powder revolver round developed for the Colt Single Action Army revolver, but is offered as a magnum level handgun hunting round in modern usage. This cartridge was adopted by the U.S. Army in 1873 and served as the official US military handgun cartridge for 19 years. This cartridge is often referred to as the ".45 Long Colt", because there was a ".45 Short" also available in the 1880's."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Line View Post
    We currently have a Rossi 44 mag on back order at this time.

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    is that in the Ranch Hand? If so, could I order one from you as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1899 View Post
    FWIW the Rossi is available in .454 Casull, which is basically a lengthened, hopped up .45 Colt.
    That is good news ! I would love to have a magnum level .45 LC in a Mares Lag. I would only do it if Rossi would sanction those loads though. Speculation and guesswork will not buy me a new face.
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