Request: lightweight 'survival rifle'.

[manbearpig]

Currently the M6 Scout is the only factory rifle that fits this niche, and they are rare/expensive as hell, and do have some inherent issues. Several rifles/shotguns targeted towards the 'survival' crowd are available on the market but, IMHO, many have major drawbacks such as a proliferation of plastic parts, flimsy sights, poor actions, etc.

IMHO for a 'survival' gun the hinge-action is ideal. it is rugged, totally reliable, inherently a takedown action, and is extremely compact: a 14" barreled hinge action would be shorter/lighter than a 10" barreled 10/22.

a sight combo similar to the XS sights rail/ghost ring combo is not offered on any .22LRs, and would be ideal for a gun like this. those who prefer can mount a compact scope or a reflex sight, and due to the hinge-action design the sights/optics would retain zero even after takedown/reassembly, and not suffer from any receiver:barrel play issues like those plaguing shotguns, 10/22s, etc.

the barrel length/stock LOP could be tailored to come in at just over the min. OAL for non-restricted. it would result in a bombproof, compact and accurate 'survival' rifle platform, and also be ideal as a plinker and youth rifle.

i made the concept using a .22 from the Rossi Trifecta package, with a shortened stock LOP and barrel. the sights are XS sights ghost rings. both of these items are easily acquirable if a 'reference' is needed for the design.

just putting this out there as this is my idea of the perfect backpacking/survival rifle, and you can put me down to preorder two of them if you can build them under $400, and im sure they would be very popular with the backpacking crowd. down the road, a short 20ga barrel could also be offered to round out the kit. .22 Hornet could also be a possibility, as could pistol calibers such as .44 mag.

[CanAm]

We would need some sort of plans to work from or a change to an existing rifle, to do it in China.

Why not get the Rossi?

[manbearpig]

the Rossi's barrel is too long, it has sh*tty plastic sights and trigger components, and in order to get the 18.5" .22LR barrel you have to order the entire 'Trifecta' three barrel set.

with M6 Scouts being scarcer than hen's teeth and ridiculously expensive, i believe theres a niche you can fill with something like this. it would also give you a platform to release further products for: like pistol cal barrels, short shotgun barrels, etc. you would have much to gain by going to a standardized platform - it would open up a market for aftermarket barrels.

the Rossi action is easily available for them to reverse-engineer.

[manbearpig]

come to think of it, depending on how satisfied everyone is with the Backpacker action, you could simply have them do a run of .22LR barrels for it.
synthetic stocks, decent integrated sights/rail like the XS systems sights, and you are good to go.

[CanAm]

The BP action is just the old savage action, which I think is the same as the Rossi.

The plant no longer wants to make them, however. We'll see.

[Free.State.Decree]

Wasn't there just a thread on those take down 10-22's? Get a take down 10-22 model! The action is proven, plus it is very lightweight, semi automatic and very accurate considering the price.

The take down 10-22 allows you to just remove the barrel, the firearm itself is very light and great to shoot.

Cheers!

[danadog]

I mentioned this before, but why doesn't Norinco build a M6 Scout?

[CanAm]

I mentioned this before, but why doesn't Norinco build a M6 Scout?

They need a sample gun or plans. Who will export one to them? Which plant would build it?

[Duffy]

What about a:



barrel comes without sights, have a gun smith shorten the barrel and put on what ever sight system you would like.

A .44 mag. tube would be nice.

[Coho]

repeat thread x lots

Look at a Ruger Gunsight Scout, it's .308, 6 pounds, and the .308 can drop everything from a rabbit (with a bb .308 load) to a grizzly or moose.



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