Request: lightweight 'survival rifle'.

[TJspeller]

You can still buy the Marlins with the HOD - the model is the 725 iirc. Very nice .22. I will pick one up someday (over a stock brand new Ruger 10/22 in a heartbeat).

Where can I get one? No luck finding them last night in Canadian online sellers that I searched.

[QuickDraw16]

I'd buy something like the ar7 in a bigger caliber... Make it a bolt action mag fed 45acp that can be broken down into, bolt, reciever/frame, barrel, mags, and stock. Would be cool to see something like this and I'd fit it into my budget somehow!

[bandit86]

I love my Henry ar-7, wish it came in calipers bigger than 22. I would love one in 223, 270 win, 308 even.

[miykael]

Isn't that what a Henry 'Survival" rifle is for:

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

To me. the purpose would be to take down small game, unless you're carrying it to target shoot. I haven't read the whole board (too long) but at this point, the actual purpose of what it's intended for wasn't mentioned, only ease of carry.

truenorth said it right...what's the purpose? Also, if you're taking a survival .22 out in the backcountry, doesn't it make more sense to be semi-auto for the just in case factor and for quick follow up shots? If there are no dangerous animals where you plan to go (or you have bear spray instead of high power rifle/shotgun) then that seems to be the only time a .22lr makes sense for survival (or no other options available). Henry seems like it is exactly what you're looking for?
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"Probably better to describe what role you want the rifle to fit. can the OP describe 'Survival' ? Is it to kill rabbits if you get lost hiking ? - then take a slingshot (weighs less than a pound). If it's to protect yourself from a bear, these .22's aren't gonna do it unless you stick it in its mouth and shoot through it's lower skull AND get lucky."[/QUOTE]


yes, what are you trying to survive? if it's a food shortage and you're out in the woods to bag a few bunnies then by all means a .22 would be fine, but if you're in the wilderness and there is the very real threat of bear and wolf attacks do you want to trust your life, and perhaps the lives of your wife and kids, to a .22???
now is the .308 starting to look a bit better? and how come no one has suggested a short barrel 12ga pump? fairly compact, and the applications can be varied by carrying a variety of ammo. i don't think too many would argue the stopping ability of a full power slug for bear. for bunnies and birds a load of birdshot would work fine. and what's a Griz go for? $310?

i'm all for a .22 in the collection, but to trust your life to one? no way.
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i have many short .308s and 12 gauges, three Grizzlies - ive owned them for many years. the fact that people are still looking for a compact 'backpackable' .22 indicates that there is an obvious niche that has yet to be filled by either of these. there are many places i dont take these guns but where i would happily stuff a light takedown .22 into a backpack.

if you prefer a short .308, or a short 12ga - by all means buy one. CanAm sells the latter, and Ruger and Savage make the former.

id like a lightweight, compact takedown .22 that i can slip into either a frame pack or a day-pack for hiking, backpacking, etc. along with ~50 rnds of ammo. the equivalent in a 12ga would weigh over twice as much and be far more bulky. the point is to have a backpacking gun that is light, compact and unobtrusive: not to have something that takes up half your pack, and therefore gets left at home.

the 10/22 takedown still leaves a lot to be desired, as its basically a full-sized 10/22 that simply splits in half. youre still stuck with the sh*tty Ruger stock, and its 21" long when broken down, over 37" when assembled, has garbage sights and scope mounting on a 10/22 - especially a takedown - has its own issues. a hinge action could be manufactured much smaller, and be potentially far more accurate and robust.

[QuickDraw16]

To answer the above ammo weight was brought up, 12ga loses out on that front

[haha49]

... Not glamorous by any means, but a well placed.22 will take down most animals, in a pinch. Survival=Desperation, then the Rules of Sportsmanship don't apply( think small game, and stalking ). With that in mind, a single shot .22, Cooey, or what ever. Slim the stock down, shorten it if practical. Shorten the Barrel to the minimum, and weld on a new foresight. The bolt that holds the action into the stock can have a set of small wings welded on. And now, it can easily be taken down into two parts, without tools ! Add a set of sling swivels, and you're good to go....... Low cost, and dead reliable. .... David K

Yes it can kill most things but I wouldnt want to be faceing a pissed of bear with one shot of 22 lr.

[bandit86]

If the bear was not pissed off when you ran into it, well it might just get pissed off if you shoot it full of .22 lr holes

[fat tony]

Where can I get one? No luck finding them last night in Canadian online sellers that I searched.

Weird, I would think that Marlins are very popular in Canada. . .

[Why not?]

Great guns, but they aren't takedown models.

Oh, but they are. Just two screws, and you've got a 20 inch package!

Ted