ATT course

[Runningfool]

Oh really? Then I guess we have to qualify at the club level for rifles and shotguns too? Not a chance my friend. Where is the discipline specific you mention for the other firearms? Remember now, the safety requirements are the exact same for all firearms, not just handguns. My restricted A.R. requires an A.T.T. to take it to the range but do I have to qualify at the club for that rifle? No, of course not! I swear, some of the people on this site must be a plant for the Coalition for Gun (and mind) Control. I find people like you are very narrow minded. But then again, robots are so easy to control. Just what the CFO's and the anti-gun want.

At my club they have "handgun range safety course" that you have to take before you can use the indoor or outdoor handgun ranges and I think it is a good idea.
Now before you call me a mind control robot, hear me out. Even though safety requirements are the same for every firearm, there are many safety issues that are range-specific that are not covered in the CFC Rpal course. The club-level range safety course makes sure everyone that becomes a member knows the rules...here is a perfect example - how would you feel if you were down range changing a target and you looked back only to see the guy two slots down from you shouldering his AR and looking down the sights? Believe it or not, many new shooters would think this is ok because they made sure the gun was empty and it was pointed downrange.
The range safety course is a pita but I feel more comfortable not having to guess if the guy beside me is familiar with range etiquette and safety.

[cyclone]

The ATT course IS a club level safety course. It is an additional way for the club to raise some funds & to ensure that each member knows the rules and policies of their particular club.

So the club-level safety course only covers restricted firearms ? ....

No offence , but that really doesn't "click"......

The "ATT course" was designed by the Ontario CFO request/demand as a prerequisite to ATT issuance...........no two ways about it....

[Uberfiend]

Do you guys have to renew gun club memberships in Alberta, in order to retain your long term ATT and keep it "actual"?

I effing hate the way these ATT's work, especially in Ontario. "Oh you did your RPAL course, passed with 100%, know all the safety procedures, and follow all the rules above and beyond what is expected? Perfect....now if you could just go join a gun club, and do all that again, then we'll send you the permission to use your RPAL...when we feel like it".

Christ. As StoneHorse said, ATT's NEED TO GO. it's a pointless procedure/document. What difference is it, what gun I am taking to the range? I have the papers, the license, and am doing everything legally. Pistol, Ar, Bolt rifle, etc. All the same.

My long term ATT is valid until my license expires. I have to renew my club membership with the CFO every year if I wish to purchase a restricted firearm, but I've never been contacted to renew it for my ATT.

[ice2152]

The club-level ATT course is advertised and offered as a "no profit" training by the clubs.......are you saying the clubs are actually utilizing it as moneymaking venture ?.....

I just paid $20 to have the club apply for Att here in Bantario after completeing 6 supervised safety shoots. Should be granted in the next week or so. Wishing i lived in the provinces of the free.

[lakermetal]

Fastford I think the best way for you to get the info you need is to contact the range in question. But , it is my understanding that your cousin must have his RPAL in order to take the course because they do the first of four "probationary " shoots right after all of the practical handling and literature is covered in the classroom. The prob shoots must be done in order to prove to the club that you can place at least 10 rounds on target at 25 yards and not over the berm as previously mentioned. Also to show the RSO that you can safely handle a live firearm. I am an RSO at that club and have overseen many of such shoots. I think it is a neccessary activity because some people have bad habits right from the get go. Ie, improper grip, sight alignment , etc. I enjoy doing the prob shoots because it gives me an opportunity to teach a new shooter how to be more accurate and not just send lead aimlessly downrange.

[emilio613]

Oh really? Then I guess we have to qualify at the club level for rifles and shotguns too? Not a chance my friend. Where is the discipline specific you mention for the other firearms? Remember now, the safety requirements are the exact same for all firearms, not just handguns. My restricted A.R. requires an A.T.T. to take it to the range but do I have to qualify at the club for that rifle? No, of course not! I swear, some of the people on this site must be a plant for the Coalition for Gun (and mind) Control. I find people like you are very narrow minded. But then again, robots are so easy to control. Just what the CFO's and the anti-gun want.

Have to admit, I agree with this (not calling someone narrow minded, but the logic ). I mean, you need an ATT to transport your AR, but not a NR cz858 (similar purpose rifle type). Some idiot could be just as careless with a rifle, as with a pistol. Either there is a club membership safety course for all firearms (which would be tedious and sort of pointless, since the rules are usually posted and the rest was covered in your PAL/RPAL exam), or none at all (and again, just going by the rules).

[FastFord58]

Fastford I think the best way for you to get the info you need is to contact the range in question. But , it is my understanding that your cousin must have his RPAL in order to take the course because they do the first of four "probationary " shoots right after all of the practical handling and literature is covered in the classroom. The prob shoots must be done in order to prove to the club that you can place at least 10 rounds on target at 25 yards and not over the berm as previously mentioned. Also to show the RSO that you can safely handle a live firearm. I am an RSO at that club and have overseen many of such shoots. I think it is a neccessary activity because some people have bad habits right from the get go. Ie, improper grip, sight alignment , etc. I enjoy doing the prob shoots because it gives me an opportunity to teach a new shooter how to be more accurate and not just send lead aimlessly downrange.

Ok, that is what I thought. He's just frustrated with the current rate things are going at. It took 9 weeks just to get his testing paper work back from NB.

Thanks for your time.

[lakermetal]

Ok, that is what I thought. He's just frustrated with the current rate things are going at. It took 9 weeks just to get his testing paper work back from NB.

Thanks for your time.

No problem man, I'm happy to help. Hopefully your cuz gets all of his shiznak together ASAP so he can do some shootin and I'll see you boys on the range.