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    Newbie LiveFreeOrPie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CC89 View Post
    Wait what?! It's illegal to buy body armour in BC??? even if you have a pal?
    This has been asked time and time again. I am not offering legal advice, but I can show you a government page outlining it pretty clearly.

    No it's not illegal. It's completely legal if you hold a P.A.L. or even a P.O.L.

    You are exempted from the requirement on the basis of your firearms license.

    http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/body-armour/index.htm#nopermit

    here is the law

    http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/ID/freeside/203_2010

    To see the exemptions, you want to go to section 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid_Snake View Post
    Don't forget Alberta new armour law .... up to 3-5 in jail and 10,0000 fine if your not licensed
    Alberta is the same. Just need a firearms license

    https://www.solgps.alberta.ca/programs_and_services/public_security/BACAct/Pages/default.aspx

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    You have listed as small medium and large, but most armour is measured in chest sizes. What size is a 42 inch chest?
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    Most of this is listed as SM, MED or LG

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    Any one out there buy one of these and feel up to posting a description / condition report of their purchase?

    I would even appreciate a PM if discretion is your thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFreeOrPie View Post
    This has been asked time and time again. I am not offering legal advice, but I can show you a government page outlining it pretty clearly.

    No it's not illegal. It's completely legal if you hold a P.A.L. or even a P.O.L.

    You are exempted from the requirement on the basis of your firearms license. .
    I am not interested in starting a pissing contest or derailing this thread but I cannot find any information in the links that support your assumption. There is a section mentioning the PAL requirement, but it starts with :

    "Who May Possess Body Armour WITHOUT a Permit

    Individuals exempt from requiring a permit to possess body armour while performing the job on which the exemption is granted are:"....

    The exemption still appears related to your employment requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangFrank View Post
    I am not interested in starting a pissing contest or derailing this thread but I cannot find any information in the links that support your assumption. There is a section mentioning the PAL requirement, but it starts with :

    "Who May Possess Body Armour WITHOUT a Permit

    Individuals exempt from requiring a permit to possess body armour while performing the job on which the exemption is granted are:"....

    The exemption still appears related to your employment requirement.
    Try the second link, section 2 (2) d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.fatstacks View Post
    Try the second link, section 2 (2) d.
    Correct.

    "For the purposes of section 2 (3) (c) of the Act, section 2 (2) of the Act does not apply to a person for the period during which the person..... is an individual who holds a valid licence issued under the Firearms Act (Canada) authorizing the individual to acquire or possess a firearm."

    Quote Originally Posted by MustangFrank View Post
    "Who May Possess Body Armour WITHOUT a Permit

    Individuals exempt from requiring a permit to possess body armour while performing the job on which the exemption is granted are:"....

    The exemption still appears related to your employment requirement.
    The website which I had hoped to be helpful was written by a provincial employee, not a legal aid or lawyer. The law stands as is, and it makes no mention of an employment requirement for the exception. All that is needed for the exemption is an individual with a valid firearms license.

    The reason the header on the provincial website declares it must be "on the job" is because of section 2-1, which states that if you exempted because of your employment, you must be employed when using the body armor: "Section 2 (2) of the Act does not apply to a person described in section 2 (3) (a) or (b) of the Act when the person is not in the course of employment for the period during which the person holds a licence referred to, and is employed to perform work described, in section 2 (3) (a) or (b) of the Act. "

    Para (a) and (b) refer to law enforcement or governmental agencies possessing body armor for use by their employees. This clarification simply states that those individuals who work with body armor cannot go home and legally own body armor without a permit or firearms license.
    Last edited by LiveFreeOrPie; 06-09-2012 at 11:41 PM. Reason: clarifying information

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    It's been a while, but I think I get the point. The confusing part is the regulations refer to sections of the act and not sections of the regulations which was totally confusing since there is no section 2 (3) in the regulations. I still am confused and need to print both items to understand what each is referring to. I hope you are correct.
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    Ordered a medium. Got a second chance super featherlight manufactured in 1998 , so expired in 2003, NIJ 0101.03 level II standard. the panels are encased in a gore tex cover with the labels inside, someone ripped a small hole in front of one of the lables, presumably to get the details. Not in bad shape, allthough the carrier was minging to say the least. Shout and a good warm water wash cleaned it up nicely. Wore it in the heat today. Not bad, a little bulkier and heavier than the newer level II stuff but wearable. The carrier is the old second chance type with the "wicking" mesh on the inside, and the poly/cotton blend outside. End of the day, for 115 bucks or so, it'll do until the new issue comes in.
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