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Thread: CSA Vz 58 222 Rem???

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    CSA Vz 58 222 Rem???

    Hi there. Is there any chance of seeing the Vz 58 Non-Restricted chambered for the triple deuce? Regards.

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    Lol, why? It's the socialist-friendly version from Europe to appease those who actively engage in fear mongering against military calibers... even though the .222 caliber is almost the same as its' military counterpart.

    Luckily, in Canada we can have the 5.56 NATO version (.223 rem). Besides, even if you'd *maybe* buy one, importing guns in weird calibers (when also available in cheap & widely available common calibers) wouldn't sell well in Canada. You must be the first person on CGN actually interested in buying one.

    .222 is for specific markets only... it's for those gun owners who can't have .223 thanks to having commies running their poor-ass countries. Smart move on CSA's part to corner the market like that, but luckily not very useful to us.

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    I just don't see the purpose of a .222.

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    Quote Originally Posted by service rifleman1 View Post
    hi there. Is there any chance of seeing the vz 58 non-restricted chambered for the triple deuce? Regards.
    ??......... ?

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    Hi there. I was asking since I seen on the VZ website that it was manufactured and available on the market. It was listed as a chambering in the Vz 58 sporter, just asking that is all as I wanted to know if these were available in Canada. No worries hey it is just a question easy enough disregard or answer if you will. As a option available to Non restricted buyers it is fortunate that these guns can be bought and I am considering options in the chambering. Thanks again and kind regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by service rifleman1 View Post
    Hi there. I was asking since I seen on the VZ website that it was manufactured and available on the market. It was listed as a chambering in the Vz 58 sporter, just asking that is all as I wanted to know if these were available in Canada. No worries hey it is just a question easy enough disregard or answer if you will. As a option available to Non restricted buyers it is fortunate that these guns can be bought and I am considering options in the chambering. Thanks again and kind regards.
    I'm not trying to be a jerk here but why would .222 interest you when the .223 will do everything the .222 does and more and ammo, reloading components and equipment for the .223 are so much more available. Just askin'.

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    No harm in having a semi-auto in .222 Remington. Ruger had this available once for the Mini-14 and it had a reputation for better accuracy than the more popular .223.
    The lack of surplus ammunition just might lead to the shooter striving for better accuracy and fewer expended rounds shot in a spray&pray attitude 'just because' one can do so cheaply.
    Certainly the varmints down range will not be able to tell the difference between a 222 or 223 strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzzzooo View Post
    223 all the way dude , the 222 was in part created for the countries where civilian cant use firearm in military calibre. 223 can be bought in bulk too. Anyway, yo
    Ahem......no the .222 was created well before the .223 by Remington's Mike Walker along with the Model 722 bolt action rifle in the early 1950s. A few years later during small arms trials an American general wanted the .222 Remington to be able to penetrate a US steel helmet @500 yards. The powder charge had to be increased to do this......hence the .222 Remington Special (.223) was born.
    The use of the .222 in semi-auto rifles overseas was well after this fact.
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    What a crock. The 222 Remington was developed by Mike Walker of Remington Arms. Introduced in 1950, it was designed for varmint shooting but soon was adopted by bench reas shooters.
    It is an inherently accurate cartridge as is the 308 Win.
    Hardly created for shooters in modern times where civilians can't have a 223.
    Where on earth did you get that information?

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