Pistol grip 20 inch long shotguns legal? Maybe!

[cdm123]

PS I'd still like to see patterning from the smallest of smallest shotguns... yes, a rifled micro shotgun shooting slugs... @ 20 feet.

To Joe average, the shot is fired sooner, rather than later. & that is why I suggested a .45-70.

Would the "pattern" from a slug not be one big hole?

[F-Tang]

I think there are some people who would love to get a truly "sawed-off" style shotgun, I.E. A JW2000 with a wooden pistol grip, even if it was classified as a "handgun," just because it would be cool.

[Darkwater]

Honestly... Unless you are looking for trouble in the daytime with a flashlight in Canada... ANY home defense scenario is so absolutely remote... Nothing much more than a locked door makes any sense.

This is literally the most intelligent comment I've ever read on CGN regarding firearms for home defense.

[=(M-1)=]

PS I'd still like to see patterning from the smallest of smallest shotguns... yes, a rifled micro shotgun shooting slugs... @ 20 feet.

To Joe average, the shot is fired sooner, rather than later. & that is why I suggested a .45-70.

A 45-70 wont work with my quad, I ride my quad with motocross racers on dirt bikes, thus I have to be very fast and agile to not slow them down, having a 50bmg would be great, but equally as cumbersome as a 45-70, and remember, I have to pack this thing miles and miles out of the bush if we break down, that’s the purpose of it. So a Howitzer will not do. Hence my want of a short (lightweight) shotgun, and for bear defence you need a gun only large enough to shatter bone at close range, I prefer closer range so I don’t end up shooting a bear that is doing a "False charge" as many of them do (and I’ve had one do it to me). But thanks to the new legal info, I will suffer to be even less well armed with a 44 magnum lever action carbine 23 inches long. Sure it sucks, but it’s the only gun that nearly fits the bill and its better than the wooden spear carved from a tree. And its not for home defence, my home is a small town in southern Alberta. No break in murderers frequented this area in the last several centuries, so I limit my house defence to an angery fist shake at the cats that get into my garbage.

[fat tony]

x2 on the angry fist shaking. . .

[=(M-1)=]

x2 on the angry fist shaking. . .

Thats the ticket!

[farmer47]

the question of legality of pistol grip shotguns with a barrel sixteen inches or shorter will get the answer from the rcmp that you have created a pistol but as can am says it has not been decided in the courts. shooting anything other than light loads in a pistol grip shotgun is the weakness because the recoil will spoil your day and accuracy with the pistol grip does not compare with a shoulder stock .

[DarkSyd]

I think there are some people who would love to get a truly "sawed-off" style shotgun, I.E. A JW2000 with a wooden pistol grip, even if it was classified as a "handgun," just because it would be cool.

Would be neat, but if it were classed as a 'handgun', that could bite us all in the arse.

Just like that...all non-restricted JW2000's are now restricted, due to being a variant of a 'handgun'

[=(M-1)=]

the question of legality of pistol grip shotguns with a barrel sixteen inches or shorter will get the answer from the rcmp that you have created a pistol but as can am says it has not been decided in the courts. shooting anything other than light loads in a pistol grip shotgun is the weakness because the recoil will spoil your day and accuracy with the pistol grip does not compare with a shoulder stock .

No it would be a very bad idea to build it first then tell the RC's, youre better to have something in writing first, and that requires courts as no RC will stick his neck out for something as grey as this.
Actually the recoil is nothing to write home about. try shooting your shotgun with 3" magnums from the hip. Your arm absorbs the recoil better than your shoulder and with a deal less pain. shorter barrels lessen this even more. and if the gun is heavy that reduces it more so, semi-auto again even more so. I can shoot my Dominion outlaw 12" double barrel one handed with a 3" magnum, and fire both barrels at the same time with it shouldered.

[F-Tang]

Would be neat, but if it were classed as a 'handgun', that could bite us all in the arse.

Just like that...all non-restricted JW2000's are now restricted, due to being a variant of a 'handgun'

Browning Buckmark rifle/pistol sets precedence for this not to be the case.