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Thread: Heckler & Koch to supply 101,000 HK416s to French army

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isadorcj View Post
    this means bullpup is a failure, it's going to fade away in time
    Quote Originally Posted by Epoxy7 View Post
    I don't think so. The Tavor has done pretty well and it's the latest of the bullpup designs.
    I agree with Epoxy. It is not that the bullpups will go away. I probably has more to do with the fact that the FAMAS has not been updated (not including the Felin) since 1994. It is probably a lot cheaper to buy a proven off-the-shelf rifle that meets modern requirements then to redesign the FAMAS. It also has the added benefits that the new rifle will work with NATO spec ammo, and is easier to mount optics and accessories too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoulson64 View Post
    I wonder, coming off of the Famas which had a 19.something inch barrel, what barrel length they went with for their 416s.
    14.5" and 11" for the french


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    Looks like the German is going to put in the first step to replace G36 with G38 aka Hk416 in a wholesale manner. They are putting out a tender of 630 million euro for 120k units, and wanting to get the first G38 in 2019. The deal is that the German will ride along with the French purchase, and German will just take the French trial testing data for evaluation . Not sure how that will work out with the procurement procedures, but looks like hk 416 will be EU standard small arms at the rate this is going.


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    Quote Originally Posted by greentips View Post
    Looks like the German is going to put in the first step to replace G36 with G38 aka Hk416 in a wholesale manner. They are putting out a tender of 630 million euro for 120k units, and wanting to get the first G38 in 2019. The deal is that the German will ride along with the French purchase, and German will just take the French trial testing data for evaluation . Not sure how that will work out with the procurement procedures, but looks like hk 416 will be EU standard small arms at the rate this is going.
    But Colt Canada is still the best because SAS.

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    The era of plastic service rifles is coming to an end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mebiuspower View Post
    But Colt Canada is still the best because SAS.
    What he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by mebiuspower View Post
    But Colt Canada is still the best because SAS.
    I believe the French Contract in the tender had a specific clause that the rifle had to be made/designed within the EU.
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    Bring in a few for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greentips View Post
    Looks like the German is going to put in the first step to replace G36 with G38 aka Hk416 in a wholesale manner. They are putting out a tender of 630 million euro for 120k units, and wanting to get the first G38 in 2019. The deal is that the German will ride along with the French purchase, and German will just take the French trial testing data for evaluation . Not sure how that will work out with the procurement procedures, but looks like hk 416 will be EU standard small arms at the rate this is going.
    I thought the germans are going for the hk433? Because reasons?

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