R8's Rock!

it is a nice gun.
fit and finish is next to none.
cycles like a dream.

guess im just not a $1500 a gun kinda guy yet.
but as long as my dad is bringing it to the range im shooting it!
 
Chuck3436 said:
It's a performance centre.

Does a Cadillac drive like a chevy or is it something special?
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Curious how you did not answer my question, but chose to reference meaningless marketing speak.

So far I've heard reference how the R8 compares very favourably toa GP100. I do not doubt this for despite my love of GP100's the trigger and hammer dynamics are far superior in the S&W. This I get. (Though I do prefer the overall build of the GP100)

What I would like to know is if I held a 686 and an R8, would I feel a difference in the trigger?

Regular and performance centre, and cadillac and chevy references are not helpful. They are brands, and brands are by definition marketing tricks used to alter your perception of value; to put it bluntly, to dupe you out of your money by paying more without necessarily getting more.
 
curseyou said:
Does the R8 shoot like other smith and wessons or is it something special.
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I own 8 pistols... Tokarev TT-33, 2 Jericho 9mm, Walther P99 .40S&W, Regent 1911 .45ACP, S&W 29 Classic .44mag, S&W 500mag, and I'd have to say the R8 is my favorite shooter. On single action, the trigger feels light and crisp, it's well balanced, shoots accurately and despite being a light weight scandium frame, the recoil feels very light. I haven't shot a different .357 so I don't have anything to compare it to, but overall, I'd say it's my favourite.
 
curseyou said:
Curious how you did not answer my question, but chose to reference meaningless marketing speak.

So far I've heard reference how the R8 compares very favourably toa GP100. I do not doubt this for despite my love of GP100's the trigger and hammer dynamics are far superior in the S&W. This I get. (Though I do prefer the overall build of the GP100)

What I would like to know is if I held a 686 and an R8, would I feel a difference in the trigger?

Regular and performance centre, and cadillac and chevy references are not helpful. They are brands, and brands are by definition marketing tricks used to alter your perception of value; to put it bluntly, to dupe you out of your money by paying more without necessarily getting more.
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im right here with ya brother.
i love my GP100 and i have very little trigger time on any S&W wheel guns.
so shooting the R8 was new to me.

like i said above (way way up there) is while its a beautiful gun i wouldnt spend over twice the cost of a Ruger GP100 on it.
its fit and finish is nice, its light, it gives you more options for optics with the 2 add on rails in the box and its shoots nice.
but at the end of the day my GP has nice fit and finish and shoots nice.
for me its a no and that is just purely for cost.
if it was the same price as a GP would i pick one up..... again id have to say no.
i like the weight of the GP but thats a personal thing.

ill admit the trigger on all the S&W ive shot are better then the ruger ones ive shot, but i find the ruger ones to be just fine, the S&W are just better.

end of the day;
the S&W is a better gun, and by god for being over twice the price it better be!
but for me i still prefer my GP100.

now, i would like to pick up a 686 or something similar to compare that, apples to apples kinda thing.
 
Well, for one thing, guns and ammo did a review on the R8 when it first came out. It produced 1/2" groups at 50 yards with premium SD ammo. That's a 1 MOA HANDGUN at 100yards. You could probably list the amount of handguns in the world on 2 hands that could do that. Mind you nobody shooting free handed will ever need such accuracy, but when shooting this gun, you know the gun is doing its part, you only have to do yours.
Plus PC triggers are unmatched in production revolvers...although I've heard the Colt snake lines are on par.
Lastly you are paying for hand fit and finish parts on PC guns, basically old world craftsmanship, not modern mass produced production line guns.

Nothing a GP100 can't do, but really, my analogy with the chevy and the cadillac goes like this. Both will get your from point A to B. One will get you there in much nicer fashion.

It all depends what you are looking for and what you are willing to spend.
 
Ok guys, I'm gonna go ahead and put my flame suit on. I don't get this revolver. I mean, I have no doubt that it's dead accurate, tight as a trap, and a dream to shoot. But to me, it looks... Not good... I dunno, I just can't get over the rail, the lines... I guess I'm just old fashioned. cou:
 
I don't mind it but in general That is my view on just about every performance centre revolver.

Though I do admire the workmanship that goes into them

Lexthedestroyer said:
Ok guys, I'm gonna go ahead and put my flame suit on. I don't get this revolver. I mean, I have no doubt that it's dead accurate, tight as a trap, and a dream to shoot. But to me, it looks... Not good... I dunno, I just can't get over the rail, the lines... I guess I'm just old fashioned. cou:
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Chuck3436 said:
Not primary shooter = no need for large capacity.

Less capacity, yet each shot is more effective, typical magnum round revolver tradeoff. But see above.

DA trigger on an R8 is better than most striker fired auto's. Heavier but cleaner in every way.
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Uhh.....No. Any trigger that has more weight and more length of pull will be the loser when compared to a trigger of less weight and less travel. Add in the movement of the cylinder and hammer and you have a classic DA revolver. No amount of custom shop tweaking will remove that. Too many moving parts, too few rounds, difficult reloads, high bore axis, useless rail, the back blast that is common to all revolvers, and the overall weight make this a poor choice for anything other than plinking with a nostalgic piece of firearms history.

TDC
 
Lexthedestroyer said:
Ok guys, I'm gonna go ahead and put my flame suit on. I don't get this revolver. I mean, I have no doubt that it's dead accurate, tight as a trap, and a dream to shoot. But to me, it looks... Not good... I dunno, I just can't get over the rail, the lines... I guess I'm just old fashioned. cou:
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Mine came with a rail, in a plastic bag with the hardware, if I wanted to put one on...
I've never fitted my rail. The iron sights are fine, and I like the clean top without the rail. Yes the bottom rail is permanent, but that's becoming pretty common for a lot of hand guns these days.
 
joe.danay said:
Mine came with a rail, in a plastic bag with the hardware, if I wanted to put one on...
I've never fitted my rail. The iron sights are fine, and I like the clean top without the rail. Yes the bottom rail is permanent, but that's becoming pretty common for a lot of hand guns these days.
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there are 2 different ones.
one that comes with 2 rails and is tapped on top and under barrel.
one that has a rail built in and is tapped on top and comes with a rail.
i believe the one with the rail built in is the M&P R8 and the other is just the R8 but i could be mistaken.

M&P R8

327 TRR8
 
haha

i was just comparing both screens above side by side and there are 2 differences.
one is listed as Black Matte and the other is listed as Matte Black and the 2nd is the TRR8 is one ounce lighter, probably due to the under rail on the barrel(?)
 
the overall weight make this a poor choice for anything other than plinking with a nostalgic piece of firearms history
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Or used for Open Division steel speed shooting competitions by one of the best shooters the world has ever known. Jerry Miculek.

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I had both the GP100 and the S&W R8, I found that once I installed a $10 Wolff spring kit in my GP100 the R8 no longer had any advantage in performance except for holding 8 rounds (and of course price).

I sold the R8 and kept the GP100.
 
thenewbieglockguy said:
I'm thinking of doing the same like in the photo and make it an ipsc revolver... hmm....
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just be aware you'll be shooting in open with it. R8 can't shoot in revolver class, and with a red dot they go to open. With Irons i believe you can shoot in production as long as you keep the speed loaders behind the centerline? I'm sure someone here will correct me if i'm wrong :)
 
just be aware you'll be shooting in open with it. R8 can't shoot in revolver class, and with a red dot they go to open. With Irons i believe you can shoot in production as long as you keep the speed loaders behind the centerline? I'm sure someone here will correct me if i'm wrong
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If you run a Revo with a red dot, you are in Open. Placement of moonclips or speed loaders can be anywhere on the belt. Maximum allowed is 6 shots, you can run an 8 shot but cannot shoot more than 6 (see below)
Otherwise:

REVOLVER DIVISION

1 Minimum power factor for Major : 170
2 Minimum power factor for Minor : 125
3 Minimum bullet weight : No
4 Minimum bullet caliber / cartridge case length : 9mm (0.354") / 19mm (0.748")
5 Minimum caliber for Major : No
6 Minimum trigger pull (see Appendix F2) : No
7 Maximum handgun size: No
8 Maximum magazine length: Not applicable
9 Maximum ammunition capacity: No, see below
10 Max. distance of handgun and allied equipment from torso: 50mm
11 Rule 5.2.10 / Appendix E2 applies : No
12 Optical/electronic sights: No
13 Compensators, ports, sound and/or flash suppressors: No

- No limit on cylinder capacity. A maximum of 6 rounds to be fired before reloading. Violations will incur one procedural penalty for each shot in excess of 6 rounds actually fired before reloading.
- Any complete revolver (or a revolver assembled from components), produced by an OFM and available to the general public (except prototypes) is permitted.
- Modifications such as weights or other devices to control and/or to reduce recoil are prohibited.

Modifications which are permitted are limited to:

- Replacement of, or modification to, sights, hammers and cylinder releases;
- Replacement barrels, provided the barrel length, weight and profile are the same as the OFM standard;
- Cosmetic enhancements (e.g. plating, checkering of frames, custom grips);
- Chamfering and/or modifications to the cylinder to accept "Moon Clips";
- Replacement springs, and modifications to enhance the operation of the trigger.
- "Self-loading" revolvers with retractable slides are prohibited in this Division.
 
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