Viscosity of lead

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Hey there anybody know the viscosity of lead and how it compares to water?

I have been trying out my home built casting pot with water to see if it leaks. There is some very slow leakage but would like to know if the viscosity of lead would change that leak.

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use a cast iron or a pot that is solidly built with thick walls.


don't forget you are melting an alloy in this pot at a temp of over 600F . some really cheaply made pots can actually cave in on themselves at high temp and heavy weight

be safe and work in a clutter free area, think safety and plan ahead of how you are going to work. if you have to use a thin walled pot, melt small amounts at a time.

as for the leak in a lee pot, there are ways to resolve that. I would suggest first to empty the Lee pot completely of lead and have a close look at the mechanism from the inside at the bottom, take it apart, clean it.
you might find all sort of sand and dirt stuck in the spout which prevents it from sealing properly. second i would suggest to use some very fine valve lapping compound to smoothen the surface and remove any burs. lap the two parts against each other carefully , small steps at a time until good contact is formed between the parts.
stop frequently and check the seal, don't over do it.
put it back together, put a bit of water in the pot and check for leaks, if done correctly there shouldent be any
if there is still a constant drip try to pin point where the leak is coming from. much easier to work with bit of cold water than molten lead in the pot.
i found out that adding some weight to the lift rod helps to keep it pushed down in place so i put a few heavy washers on the pot handle which keep it weighed down.

see if any of the leak prevention methods from the lee pot work for your applications.
hope this info helps.
 
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Boiling water is 212F. Molten lead is 650F or higher. Be careflul, it's not fun to have your pot split and drop 10 lbs of molten lead on your foot. I only use cast pots because i had a steel pot split on me once.
 
For lots of casting I use a large Lee pot and have an older (35 years?) smaller one for medium projects. (I think they're 20 lb and 10 lb pots with bottom pour.) For the smaller stuff I've found a few cast iron pots that have served well enough and did't cost much. For years I used the bottom pour feature but started using a ladle and will never go back to bottom pour again. The discard rate of the bottom pour was usually quite high, sometimes almost 15%. With a ladle I've found the discard rate to be close to nill and never more than about 5%. Perhaps I'm picky or just never had high success rates with the bottom pour but I'll stick to ladle and not have to deal with leaky valves again.
 
Boiling water is 212F. Molten lead is 650F or higher. Be careflul, it's not fun to have your pot split and drop 10 lbs of molten lead on your foot. I only use cast pots because i had a steel pot split on me once.

If the schedule 80 steal pipe splits I'll give up casting? Double welded the bottom on.

Don't worry, I will test it thuroughly before I sit down and put my "junk" in front of it.
 
Just try it. If the only place it can leak is the valve, first time you use it, have something underneath to catch any leakage.

It working with water proves little - the lead is much heavier, more viscous, and much hotter (and the valve will be much hotter too).
 
Hey Don

With my red neck calculations on the empty cylinder it is about 20.28lbs...

Now take into consideration that I will not be filling it all the way full and the volume of the valve stem...Id say about 16-17 pounds.

Had it up to 810 deg f this morning...just a matter of waiting for that thermocouple to come in

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If the schedule 80 steal pipe splits I'll give up casting? Double welded the bottom on.

Don't worry, I will test it thuroughly before I sit down and put my "junk" in front of it.

Heat stress related cracking doesn't show up for many cycles so testing it once is relatively worthless.

Schedule 80 is pretty light stuff. The pot that split on me was made of schedule 160, new/scrapped material from a high pressure flow line fabrication. The weld holding on the cap had bbeen stress relieved and x-rayed prior to being scrapped. In my newbie enthusiasm I thought it would be a great melting pot and it was for about a year, before it split and squirted molten lead on the floor. Burned my boot but not my foot. Lucky.

Spending the money on a good cast melting pot is the best investment a new caster can make.
 
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