twosmokinspades
CGN Regular
I believe that is a requirement of the Military could be wrong but the events that I have gone to there are all the same.
2014 BC Precision Rifle Championship June 13-15, 2014
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I believe that is a requirement of the Military could be wrong but the events that I have gone to there are all the same.
Awesome vids! I see Stage 8 and 5 are mine. Too bad I cant see if any of the others are. I have to get one of those connectors for my Kowa!!
Huge props to Ed, Paul and the stats dude(sorry I never did catch your name!) for getting this excellent match back on track. It will only get better and smoother from here. If you've never shot a match like this before I highly suggest you come on out and give it a try. We had multiple new shooters out who have never shot this kind of thing before and they all did great. It is a great learning experience no matter how you look at it. Perhaps PMJ or Ed could post the results like first name/last initial and score? If not email me with it and I'll stick it up. My congrats to all the winners! Some awesome shooting was done! A special attaboy goes out to Victor who took the infamous "Dots or Doom" match and made it his biatch! This match you are required to engage a series of 3/4 moa dots from 100m. You can shoot as many as you like or as few as you like in 90 seconds. 10 points each BUT if you miss one you get a big ZERO for the whole match! Victor shot all 10 dots in 90 seconds! It's the first time its ever been done and is fricken impressive. Victor if you are here you need to post a picture of your target! A close second was John H who managed 8 dots. Also bloody good shooting!
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Stage 4 right most target is either yours or your partners shots, I'm not sure who was shooting and spotting at the time. Stage 6 also shows your shot, mine, and my partners.... although I'm not sure you're happy with that. If you would have nailed that cold bore shot you would have won the event.
At 600m there wasn't much room by you with the railing right behind, so I went down to the end of the line where there was lots of spare room to hang back behind the line.
It's a nice attachment, only thing that sucks is that you don't normally record your shots because your partner is usually on the scope calling the shot. You can't really see the bullet wake well on the screen while it's recording.
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Oldsmobiler
CGN Regular
- Location
- Coquitlam, BC
10 dots! WOW...gotta see that! I'll be there for next year for sure. Just finishing up school this week and its a toughie so it kinda took priority
Ante
Ante
Hi
i am the "stats dude" - Phil at the BC Precision Rifle Championship this past weekend.
i was asked to post the finals, but i have no upload capabilities... we will sort this out shortly.
and yes, a big pat on the back to Victor for running 10 dots in a row!!! plus a cold bore shot beforehand that was right on the mark
great turn-out, well done to everybody who competed - hopefully i will be on the line next year.
Phil
'the Stats Dude'
i am the "stats dude" - Phil at the BC Precision Rifle Championship this past weekend.
i was asked to post the finals, but i have no upload capabilities... we will sort this out shortly.
and yes, a big pat on the back to Victor for running 10 dots in a row!!! plus a cold bore shot beforehand that was right on the mark
great turn-out, well done to everybody who competed - hopefully i will be on the line next year.
Phil
'the Stats Dude'
Hello all,
I am happy that event feed back is positive for the most part , we implemented some new methods of scoring and recording and after a little bit of a transition the system proved itself the solution to previous years scoring delays , as with any event adjustments need to be made to get our event seamless and we will refine the process to achieve that seamlessness , an event such as this one requires Volunteers that give selflessly of their time equipment and in some cases money and with that being said I would like to thank All the volunteers here now , Thank you Paul J - Maryanne j, Phillip S,Lisa S,Mr Bergsma,Brent A, Gabriel( sorry never got your last name) And Kevin F, ( from all reports this lad did an outstanding job in the butts) all worked the Butts or in stats or both , the folks that picked up the markers - thank you , the markers , the folks that helped RSO, and those shooters that allowed markers to shoot their rifles and others that pulled targets for the markers, I would also like to thank members of the VPD and Edmonton PS for their input and also VPD a second time for supplying ammunition for the markers to experience a little bit of our event and encourage young folks to participate in organized competitions .
Scores have been forwarded to Longshot and I am sure he will post them as he is able , again thanks to all for participating and thank you one again to those that volunteered , if I left anyone out please let me know and I will include them in this note
See you next year .............please pre register so we can plan for and provide the best event experience possible
With regards
Ed
I am happy that event feed back is positive for the most part , we implemented some new methods of scoring and recording and after a little bit of a transition the system proved itself the solution to previous years scoring delays , as with any event adjustments need to be made to get our event seamless and we will refine the process to achieve that seamlessness , an event such as this one requires Volunteers that give selflessly of their time equipment and in some cases money and with that being said I would like to thank All the volunteers here now , Thank you Paul J - Maryanne j, Phillip S,Lisa S,Mr Bergsma,Brent A, Gabriel( sorry never got your last name) And Kevin F, ( from all reports this lad did an outstanding job in the butts) all worked the Butts or in stats or both , the folks that picked up the markers - thank you , the markers , the folks that helped RSO, and those shooters that allowed markers to shoot their rifles and others that pulled targets for the markers, I would also like to thank members of the VPD and Edmonton PS for their input and also VPD a second time for supplying ammunition for the markers to experience a little bit of our event and encourage young folks to participate in organized competitions .
Scores have been forwarded to Longshot and I am sure he will post them as he is able , again thanks to all for participating and thank you one again to those that volunteered , if I left anyone out please let me know and I will include them in this note
See you next year .............please pre register so we can plan for and provide the best event experience possible
With regards
Ed
I had a great time - and will definitely be back next year - where would we go about pre-registering for next years event? Are the applications available anywhere? I would be happy to send my application in for next year asap.
Hello Illae,
I appreciate your enthusiasm , however we do have to go through the BCRA AGM process to propose dates then those dates are presented to military for approval ( to avoid any conflicts in scheduling) so until November then again in February We won't have confirmed dates and so preregistration isn't an option until BCRA march Mail out
Regards
Ed
I appreciate your enthusiasm , however we do have to go through the BCRA AGM process to propose dates then those dates are presented to military for approval ( to avoid any conflicts in scheduling) so until November then again in February We won't have confirmed dates and so preregistration isn't an option until BCRA march Mail out
Regards
Ed
twosmokinspades
CGN Regular
If you partner would break out his wallet and quit beaning a cheap ars and get his own spotting scope you could use yours to record both your own shots and be able to lean more about your mistakes and become the best team on the line. Anyway he cant call a shot worth a darn anyway,
I have seen better eyes on a potato.
He did get better and the event went on thou.We definitely need to find some more Precision shoots around and get out to them. And yes I will get a spotting scope, not sure which one yet though.
Wrote up a lengthy blog post on my post-match thoughts for anyone that wants a read:
Check it out over here
Check it out over here
uncledillers
Regular
- Location
- Comox Valley
First off I want to say, I had a great time at the shoot. Great bunch of guys, lots of knowledge, lots of beautiful equipment, and some really good matches. I appreciated all the volunteers and Ed for running this match. The following comments are not to criticize in a negative way but just "my" thoughts on how the event might be bettered.
For next years event that the BCRA/match director is going to have to secure some decent prizes and have them listed when the entry match is announced. I do realize that you cant have 15000$ worth of prizes for 20 competitors, But considering a large portion of people are not from the Fraser valley/GVRD, they have to put out a bunch of money to come to this shoot, they are alot more likely to come out if there is a chance at some prizes. I know 10 people for sure from the western provinces, miltary/civilian/ERT that are into precision shooting and might come, but If it was the same match ( pacing and prizes) then I wouldn't recommend they come.
600m: CCB no problem with this at all
600m reach out. Thought this was good, even though there were alot of shots taken I think it was ok because experienced shooter were missing some of these shots.
600m nut check, liked the choice of targets maybe have 10 shots in 5min to move the match along.
500m shoot no shoot agony. I found this match way to long. I get the point of the "agony" but I didnt find it agonizing I found it boring and repetitive. I have 4 different suggestions:
1.Might be better with 10 shoot, 10 no shoot.
2.If the same amount of exposures is kept the same, have the targets hard to differentiate between shoot and no shoot
3.Or quicker exposures
4. If you want a real agony match, one exposure of 2-3 seconds randomly in a 10 minute window
300m old school. No complaints, really fun match. really takes shooters out of comfort zone.
100. CCB Solid match
200. Dot of doom. Another great skill shoot. But severly under valued on the scorring. I mean a gut shots 10 3/4 MOA targets in a row under a time limit ( which never happens ) and all he gets is 150 points. But yet the 500m shoot no shoot, which was a cake walk is worth 200.
200m flash. Good match lots of rounds, but scorring ring helps pread the scoring field
200m me and my shadow. Did not like this. But there are lots of ways to make it better. :
1. less rounds on target
2. way shorter exposure times.
3. move it further back. I do realize some of the experts in this type of thing recommend the closer range, but they are trying no get into a 0% chance of missing scenario. I fact I though I remebered some one saying they dont would never shoot past 100m in this type of thing. Where the competition should never be about 0% chance of missing.
4. Have a target up on a screen, and have the target covered by another target on a stick (like the movers target) and have the butts person randomly expose small portions of the shooter
Quit breathing. good match . well done.
On your command. This match was alot better on paper as described in the course of fire. Not sure how it got all screwed up at the time of the shoot
Die tired. Did not like this match. To may rounds, to large of target. I got bored after 10 shots and started head hunting for fun. If you can hit these movers once you can hit them 20 times
All this beings said we got luck with next to no winds all weekend.
Final thoughts, I didnt really like any of the matches where team mates shot at the same, If you are going to have shooter/spotter then it should stay the same through out.
Once again just Ideas, I had a great time.
I will see everyone again next year.
For next years event that the BCRA/match director is going to have to secure some decent prizes and have them listed when the entry match is announced. I do realize that you cant have 15000$ worth of prizes for 20 competitors, But considering a large portion of people are not from the Fraser valley/GVRD, they have to put out a bunch of money to come to this shoot, they are alot more likely to come out if there is a chance at some prizes. I know 10 people for sure from the western provinces, miltary/civilian/ERT that are into precision shooting and might come, but If it was the same match ( pacing and prizes) then I wouldn't recommend they come.
600m: CCB no problem with this at all
600m reach out. Thought this was good, even though there were alot of shots taken I think it was ok because experienced shooter were missing some of these shots.
600m nut check, liked the choice of targets maybe have 10 shots in 5min to move the match along.
500m shoot no shoot agony. I found this match way to long. I get the point of the "agony" but I didnt find it agonizing I found it boring and repetitive. I have 4 different suggestions:
1.Might be better with 10 shoot, 10 no shoot.
2.If the same amount of exposures is kept the same, have the targets hard to differentiate between shoot and no shoot
3.Or quicker exposures
4. If you want a real agony match, one exposure of 2-3 seconds randomly in a 10 minute window
300m old school. No complaints, really fun match. really takes shooters out of comfort zone.
100. CCB Solid match
200. Dot of doom. Another great skill shoot. But severly under valued on the scorring. I mean a gut shots 10 3/4 MOA targets in a row under a time limit ( which never happens ) and all he gets is 150 points. But yet the 500m shoot no shoot, which was a cake walk is worth 200.
200m flash. Good match lots of rounds, but scorring ring helps pread the scoring field
200m me and my shadow. Did not like this. But there are lots of ways to make it better. :
1. less rounds on target
2. way shorter exposure times.
3. move it further back. I do realize some of the experts in this type of thing recommend the closer range, but they are trying no get into a 0% chance of missing scenario. I fact I though I remebered some one saying they dont would never shoot past 100m in this type of thing. Where the competition should never be about 0% chance of missing.
4. Have a target up on a screen, and have the target covered by another target on a stick (like the movers target) and have the butts person randomly expose small portions of the shooter
Quit breathing. good match . well done.
On your command. This match was alot better on paper as described in the course of fire. Not sure how it got all screwed up at the time of the shoot
Die tired. Did not like this match. To may rounds, to large of target. I got bored after 10 shots and started head hunting for fun. If you can hit these movers once you can hit them 20 times
All this beings said we got luck with next to no winds all weekend.
Final thoughts, I didnt really like any of the matches where team mates shot at the same, If you are going to have shooter/spotter then it should stay the same through out.
Once again just Ideas, I had a great time.
I will see everyone again next year.
That was a good read. Was my first time to visit your blog - kudos to you for overcoming challenges most of us can't imagine. Very inspirational.
Hey Tomochan - thanks very much all around! I am trying to document my challenges and trying to get better at what I do as I go along. Cheers!
While I haven't shot this match in a few years I see some of the things being brought up, some I agree with, some I think are brought in from people that shoot other disciplines and expect this match to be run the same way. This is supposed to be a tough match and while it can't replicate everything a "sniper" would have to do, it can bring some of the stress into. My favorite matches have always been the Cold Bore at 600, old school and agony snaps. I've heard lots of people say they get bored during the agony snaps, and that's good, that's sort of the point. Especially this year with the much more random exposures, one guy could be done in a few minutes or he could take the whole time allotted all depending on how the butts people do things.
Changing matches on the fly seems to be something that just happens at this match, although not every year. Not sure why it happens, but I'm used to it.
Hoping to make it next year.
Changing matches on the fly seems to be something that just happens at this match, although not every year. Not sure why it happens, but I'm used to it.
Hoping to make it next year.
I agree with you and will add that I also enjoyed the Me and My Shadow stage. As a civilian with no previous tactical rifle shooting the CoF was a real challenge for me and even though my scores were abysmal (which I expected) I liked the stress involved, even from the last minute stage changes. Sure I would like prizes but even if there weren't any next year I'd still drive the three hours and pay for the hotel and other things to shoot it again.
