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If the shooter is lucky, this is what can happen when a 270 Win cartridge is fired in a 7mm Rem Mag rifle. In this instance, the smaller diameter Nosler Partition did not swell into the rifling - it was therefore unstable. This target was next to the one the shooter was aiming toward. The four-shot "group" was from another shooter. See text.

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Fired cases from left to right: 270 Win, 270 Win fired in a 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm Rem Mag. Fortunately for the shooter, this case held - that is not always the result. The author is aware of two instances where a 270 Win was fired in a 7mm Rem Mag and the case body ruptured. Both resulted in significant (although repairable) damage to both rifle and shooter.

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A rare exception. It is usually harmless to chamber and fire 300 Savage ammunition (left) in a 308 Win rifle. Generally, firing a smaller or shorter case is unsafe and prone to result in a dangerous case rupture. See table notes.

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The 44 Magnum (right) will chamber and fire in a 45 Colt chambered gun. Usually the case body will swell to seal the chamber without rupturing. However, with certain bullets and certain loads the bullet can swell to seal the bore. When this happens, peak chamber pressure can approach the level of 45 Colt proof loads.

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Depending upon bullet ogive placement, it is possible to chamber and fire a 308 Win load in a gun chambered for the 25-06 Rem, 270 Win or 280 Rem. Doing so is practically certain to wreck both rifle and shooter. Many 30-06 chambered rifles will also accept factory 308 Win loads. Such a combination can also lead to catastrophic gun failure (see table notes).

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Firing a 270 Win in a 280 Rem rifle will usually not destroy the rifle. However, the extreme headspace condition (0.050") provides the potential for a case head separation. (See table notes.)

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A common mistake, especially among those owning a convertible rimfire revolver. All sizes of conventional 22-rimfire ammunition will chamber and fire in the 22 Magnum chamber. Usually, no harm is done. However, the smaller diameter case can split. This results in a potentially dangerous gas leak.

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Some 30-40 Krag ammo (right) might chamber in some 303 British rifles. Doing so is almost certain to result in the case neck crimping the bullet in place. Firing such a round is likely to destroy the rifle and is quite unlikely to do the shooter any good.

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7mm Wby Mag and 270 Wby Mag., other than bullet length, can you tell which is which? This is one of the more dangerous mismatches. The 7mm Wby Mag (left) will chamber in some 270 Wby Mag rifles. Doing so crimps the bullet tightly into the case neck - the bullet cannot move until chamber pressure is far higher than it would normally be. Firing such a combination is almost certain to destroy the rifle, with potentially fatal consequences. Also note that it is entirely possible to seat a 7mm bullet in a 270 Wby case, resulting in precisely the came outcome.

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The result of two (usually) harmless mismatches. Left, 243 Win fired in a 308 Win rifle. Note the neck split and that the end of the neck did not fully expand into the chamber. Right, 270 Win fired in 30-06 Springfield rifle. Note the second shoulder, where the end of the longer case neck swelled against the end of the 30-06 chamber.

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Depending upon bullet used and cartridge length, the 8mm Mauser can chamber and fire in a 270 rifle. Case on left: fired in 8mm chamber. Case on right: fired in a 270 chamber. Author found 18 of these in one pile…. One has to wonder why there were not 20. See text and table notes.
 
I have accidently fired:
a 260rem in a 6.6-06
a 40 S&W in a 45ACP
a 223 in a 7.62x39
a 7x57 in a 8x57

Accidents occurred when I was shooting both guns at the same time.




And I heard of a guy who for years fed his 30-06 a steady diet of 308s.

And another fellow who fed his 32Spl a diet of 30-30.

And another fellow insisted on shooting 303 Savage in his Lee Enfield because "It don't kick as hard."
 
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I have witnessed someone loading a P226 .40S&W magazine with 9mm rounds and firing one round. It made a very weird noise, actions didnt cycle properly, spent shell was bulged to the size of a 40 S&W chamber.

No idea about any barrel damages or what not though
 
I've fired 40 in my 45,
Necked down a 500mag case to 45 cal and fired it in my revolver,
7.62x25 in my glock 9mm (that was to make shot shells for 9mm)


If the projectile is smaller then the intended size is used there should be no issues at all, but I'm sure it could damage something.
 
Watched a buddy fire a box of .30-30 out of a .32 Special and never touched the target, even at 25 yards...The look on his face was priceless when he realized that he had gone out an bought the box of .30-30 when there was 10 boxes of .32 Special sitting at home and he didn't have a clue what they were for.
 
Saw 3 or so guys at the range once getting very frustrated over a Browning BAR. It only fired once every few times the trigger was pulled and wouldn't cycle properly when it did fire. Turned out they where firing 308 in a 30-06. I guess the cases where being pushed into the chamber too far so the firing pin wouldn't strike most of the time. I checked out the brass they left and it looked almost like 45-70 or 444 cases. They fired around half a box of ammo before realizing their mistake. They weren't looking at the ejected cases at all.

I talked to one guy once that insisted on firing 7x57 in his 8x57 rifle because he didn't want to wear out the bore and reduce the rifles value. He claimed he fired hundreds of rounds in this combination to great success. I question his claim since he wouldn't have been able to hit anything.

Checking your headstamps and barrel stamps doesn't always work since milsurp ammo doesn't have calibre headstamps and surplus rifles don't have marked barrels.
In addition to that, almost all of my 8x57 cases say "30-06" on the heads.
 
Was at the range yesterday with my 7x57 and my new-to-me 280.

I was wondering if I might get mixed up but fortunately my 280 cases (Fusion) are bright steel and my 7x57 cases are tarnished brass.

What would happen if I put a 7x57 in the 280?
 
Was at the range yesterday with my 7x57 and my new-to-me 280.

I was wondering if I might get mixed up but fortunately my 280 cases (Fusion) are bright steel and my 7x57 cases are tarnished brass.

What would happen if I put a 7x57 in the 280?

probably not much. You will eject a case that looks just like a 280, except it will have a very short neck.

I mentioned a fellow that for several years shot nothing but 308s in his 3006. The empties looked like 444 marlin rimless.
 
Found this at the range:



Don't know how many the dude had fired, and if he still use that ammo in is rifle today. Probably a cheap guy ! :)

Mush
 
Have yet to do it and have no intentions of purposely firing ammunition in a gun that it was not designed for. I'll fire form brass like 7.62x54 in a 8x56 or 303Brit to make brass 410 cases but these are proven safe and effective.
 
The one i am paranoid about is 28 and 20 ga. Apparently a 28 will fit down the tube of a 20....obstructing part way down the barrel. Load a 20 on top and its Acme tool and die...Roadrunner and Coyote.

A 20 ga shell mixed in with 12 ga ones is another lethal combo. The 20 will drop all the way through the chamber, with the rim hanging up on the forcing cone. Lots of room for a 12 ga to chamber behind it...
 
Firing a 30-30 in a .32 Special won't be much of a danger, but accuracy may suffer.

I have umpteen different rifles in umpteen different calibers. Most of the rifles are milsurp, so the problem of mixing up the ammo becomes more serious as most of the ammo has some obscure head stamp, plus very few milsurp rifles have the caliber stamped on them.

To even complicate matters further, the 1904 Portugese rifles that were redone to 8x57 still have the 6.5 Portugese caliber stamped on the receiver! I have a Norwegian 98 Mauser that was rebarreled to 30-06, and has 7.62 stamped on the barrel. I've caught a few guys with that one, as they presume that it is chambered for 7.62 NATO. However, I believe the rifles were rebarreled before the NATO cartridge came into being.

I have an old CZ 98 that I had rechambered to 8mm-06 years ago. I have to use 30-06 brass, so I bought a small supply of nickel plated ones and use them exclusively in that rifle. It makes a nice looking cartridge when I load target rounds with the nickel (or whatever the plating is) projectiles I've pulled from milsurp ammo.

Care needs to be taken with ammo and rifle combos, that's for sure. Most modern 20 gauge hulls are some variation of yellow, so that helps. My ex-wife used to tell me that I was just playing Russian roulette shooting all the different old rifles. I try to pay good attention to the ammo I bring when I am preparing to go shooting.
 
I had a friend come home with a new BLR 243, couldn't hit the target while sighting in the scope. A check of the cases didn't look good, turns out the dealer gave him a 308 BLR. Returned it for the proper rifle, and checked the barrel stamp on that one.
 
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