My first stone sheep! (B&C score update)

WhelanLad said:
$60-75 isn't bad at all for a Resident, but 40-k for non resident is crayyyy.

Cheers

WL
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Got a convincing reason the province should be giving them away? :) BC is still running a deficit, the guides and territory holders aren't rolling in it, there's a line up of people to book at $50k... The sheep belong to the people of BC, and I'd be angry if we were selling the hunts to non-residents for less than we could get. Marco Polis aren't cheap either, just supply and demand, hunting abroad today is actually cheaper than ever, but niche species will always follow basic supply and demand.
 
How much does an outfitter have to pay to the province for a client's hunt, in terms of licenses, fees etc.?

Probably membership in GOABC or the like as well?
 
Silverado said:
How much does an outfitter have to pay to the province for a client's hunt, in terms of licenses, fees etc.?

Probably membership in GOABC or the like as well?
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Probably several thousand for each tag. But whether its $5 or $5000 doesnt really matter if there are 100 hunters willing to pay, and only a few tags available.

Non resident sheep license is $695.
 
The biggest cost is the area rights, they're like real estate, and the guide outfitter I mention has his on payments just like mortgage. The outfitters and guides aren't making a killing, and I'm 110% for the non-resident tag allotments going for fair market price. That meaning what people will pay, and given Stones sell out years ahead, I can't see why non-residents should be able to take the province's rarest game at cut rate and below market value. The whole of the province would lose for the benefit of the individual non-resident.

I digress, and back to the OP's wonderful ram! :cheers:
 
I'm with you guys on the relative cost of non-resident trophy hunts. I had always wondered what the costs were for the outfitters.

We have an interesting (and somewhat divisive) practice in Alberta where the SRDM auctions off one Bighorn tag (called the Minister's Tag) to the highest bidder every year. I believe that tag is for any trophy sheep, any zone, any open season. The proceeds go towards conservation and enforcement (supposedly). There is an equivalent tag offered to residents on a lottery basis.

Does BC have something like that?
 
Silverado said:
I'm with you guys on the relative cost of non-resident trophy hunts. I had always wondered what the costs were for the outfitters.

We have an interesting (and somewhat divisive) practice in Alberta where the SRDM auctions off one Bighorn tag (called the Minister's Tag) to the highest bidder every year. I believe that tag is for any trophy sheep, any zone, any open season. The proceeds go towards conservation and enforcement (supposedly). There is an equivalent tag offered to residents on a lottery basis.

Does BC have something like that?
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Yes BC does have something like this, where a tag is auctioned off that allows the hunter to hunt where ever/when ever (within the permitted hunting areas) for one sheep for that year. That tag is usually sold for well over 100K.
 
Beale338 said:
Just had the sheep scored for B&C. 179 6/8 before deductions and 179 after deductions. I'm pretty happy with that!
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Considering it's nearly 10" over the B&C minimum I'd be happy too. I suspect that could be the largest Stone taken in BC in 2014.
 
BC, the Yukon, Rocky Mountain Alberta, and parts of the Western NWT might as well be on a different continent compared to anything East of the Rockies. Whole different slough of species and topography, when I walked in the woods in Quebec it felt like I was in another place entirely. The animals are different (even the same species look a bit different), the trees very different, the terrain completely opposite, and the species hunters covet very different. Here mountain goats, sheep, Wood Bison, Roosevelt Elk, and Grizzles hold the most regard amongst hunting friends, all species that don't exist out East. Just very different places and hunting.
 
Ardent said:
BC, the Yukon, Rocky Mountain Alberta, and parts of the Western NWT might as well be on a different continent compared to anything East of the Rockies. Whole different slough of species and topography, when I walked in the woods in Quebec it felt like I was in another place entirely. The animals are different (even the same species look a bit different), the trees very different, the terrain completely opposite, and the species hunters covet very different. Here mountain goats, sheep, Wood Bison, Roosevelt Elk, and Grizzles hold the most regard amongst hunting friends, all species that don't exist out East. Just very different places and hunting.
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What is truly amazing is this same theory applies from south to north as well.... my area is chock full of deer and turkey.... 3 hours north east is bear country with elk on the way.... then 8 hours north of that is moose bear and timberwolf.....

Some of the species in your neck of the woods leave me envious.... maybe someday....

We are all blessed to live in the country we live in though......
 
Most people dont care about wolves as a pursuit , they are a hinderance to a farming life and are generaly hated. If you want em supermanbrad, take em all . And good riddance
 
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is clearly a Bighorn Hybrid so not eligable for entry in B&C as a Stone's Sheep.
 
Beale338 said:
Just had the sheep scored for B&C. 179 6/8 before deductions and 179 after deductions. I'm pretty happy with that!
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You'd be just under the world record for a Stone Sheep taken with a bow!

from the Boone and Crocket site (http://www.boone-crockett.org/news/trophyWatch_month.asp?area=news&year=2012&month=3)

PENDING P&Y WORLD'S RECORD STONE'S SHEEP
March 8, 2012
Its down to final paper work and then a Judges Panel, but it looks like a new Pope & Young World's Record Stone's sheep was taken in northern British Columbia.

Stanley Walchuk Jr took the current Pope & Young World's Record Stone's sheep from the Tetsa River region of British Columbia in 1992. This rams scores 174-2/8. Jim Hens arrowed a ram in northern BC on November 7th, 2011 that P&Y Officials have scored at 179-1/8. Before becoming the official new P&Y World's Record there is additional paperwork pending, and a judges panel will convene, which is protocol for all pending World's Record trophies.

The Boone and Crockett Club World's Record Stone's sheep remains the L.S. Chadwick ram taken in 1936 from the Muskwa River in BC. This legendary trophy scores 196-6/8 and is considered by many to be North America's greatest trophy.
 
Ardent not only does BC have the rocky mountain and boreal landscape it also has the coastal forest, which is similar in species but pretty unique in composition.
 
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