600 yard MOA Moose rifle build - 300 WSM or 300 WIN Mag? Sako/Tikka/Weatherby/Kimber?
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Not at 600, but it gives you an idea (this was from a cut-block, not a range - and those are 1" squares):
Now that is some fine shooting. Thanks for posting!
once I'm comfortable at that range it's possible ... And then again ... since moose season is only once a year, by the time I make enough clean kills at this range ....
Thanks for the input!
Thanks .. (I had been looking at a NULA - they look amazing!), and I agree - a heavier rifle is the way to go
Weatherby Backcountry in 300 Win Mag or 300 Weatherby Mag shooting handloaded Nosler 200 gr Accubonds will get the job done ! BUT can you ?
RJ
RJ
Ok... So I'm gonna stick my nose in. I built a WSM on a LA so that I could seat the bullets at the neck shoulder junction. Gave up nothing in case capacity. Only ever ran the 180 tsx @ 3100 fps. 66 gr of IMR 4350. This combination was very effective. Theory was that if it worked in precision rifle it'd work on a hunting rig... Longest moose was @ 746 yds. Don't let standard COAL make your decisions for you. My opinion for what it's worth, Piper.
Weatherby Backcountry in 300 Win Mag or 300 Weatherby Mag shooting handloaded Nosler 200 gr Accubonds will get the job done ! BUT can you ?
If I went with a Weatherby I would go with an Accumark because of the heavier barrel and extra overall weight which makes a big difference if you do a lot of target practice.
1899 - I may have to take a closer look at the Remington Mil-Spec 5R ... I have never had a great experience with Remington - poor out of the box accuracy and workmanship. However the Mil- Spec 5R may be different so it may be worth doing a bit more research
Blah, blah...still proving I'm a retard in writing and posting it on the intrwebz.....blah...blah....
Please stop talking.
ER Shaw makes nice rifles as well. I priced out a 264 wm a while back and although it was over your $2000 mark it may be still worth a look
Cooper makes a great rifle as well and since you're more or less sniping than hard hunting a nice gun shouldn't get to beat up. I'm not dissing your hunting style in anyway. I hunt thick heavy bush so I bang my guns around. If i had open areas I could drive to I'd use prettier guns
300 win mag gets my vote
Cooper makes a great rifle as well and since you're more or less sniping than hard hunting a nice gun shouldn't get to beat up. I'm not dissing your hunting style in anyway. I hunt thick heavy bush so I bang my guns around. If i had open areas I could drive to I'd use prettier guns
300 win mag gets my vote
For what its worth if you are looking at an accumark then take a look at prophet rivers site...they have a few on for just over $1900...........they wont be at that price for long with this dollar and weatherby stating that they are closer to $2100 MSRP on their website!!
And im going to go and stick my neck out and make this statement as far as hunting bullets go.......dont bet your sucess on the berger bullets for hunting....they are not controlled for expansion and will fail miserably on closer shots. This past fall I ran into a guy at a local gunshop and he was looking for a high BC controlled expansion bullet for his .300 Win Mag.........he and his hunting partner were drawn for moose and both were using the Berger hunting bullets and a shot at a 48" plus bull came at around 200 yards. the shot was true but they didnt recover the animal.......they even went back 3 days in a row to look for birds.....all they found was hide!!!! This tells me the bullet didnt make the rib cage and all they were in was rolling praries and hills......minimal forest. So the revovery should have been easy.
Like I said in my past post look at the Barnes LRX, TTSX, Switf Scirrocos II's, Accubonds..........these will all hold together if a shot presents itself up close.... yet will open and penetrate when the velocity has dropped off at further yardages. And to justify this theory I have harvested 17 elk in the past 20 years.....along with 8 moose, and countless deer. You cant defy Physics and terminal impact velocities are often overlooked when it comes to big game hunting and bullet choices!
Not trying to steer the page away from original topic but this needs to be considered for the 500-600 yard shooting......not all shots come at that range.....sometimes the sun shines on a dogs ass!!!!
Just one mans opinion.....
And im going to go and stick my neck out and make this statement as far as hunting bullets go.......dont bet your sucess on the berger bullets for hunting....they are not controlled for expansion and will fail miserably on closer shots. This past fall I ran into a guy at a local gunshop and he was looking for a high BC controlled expansion bullet for his .300 Win Mag.........he and his hunting partner were drawn for moose and both were using the Berger hunting bullets and a shot at a 48" plus bull came at around 200 yards. the shot was true but they didnt recover the animal.......they even went back 3 days in a row to look for birds.....all they found was hide!!!! This tells me the bullet didnt make the rib cage and all they were in was rolling praries and hills......minimal forest. So the revovery should have been easy.
Like I said in my past post look at the Barnes LRX, TTSX, Switf Scirrocos II's, Accubonds..........these will all hold together if a shot presents itself up close.... yet will open and penetrate when the velocity has dropped off at further yardages. And to justify this theory I have harvested 17 elk in the past 20 years.....along with 8 moose, and countless deer. You cant defy Physics and terminal impact velocities are often overlooked when it comes to big game hunting and bullet choices!
Not trying to steer the page away from original topic but this needs to be considered for the 500-600 yard shooting......not all shots come at that range.....sometimes the sun shines on a dogs ass!!!!
Just one mans opinion.....
I have a customer who can shoot smaller than 9 inches at 900 yards... and dropped a moose at 852 yards with one shot. 338 Edge and 300 grain. He is not the only one out there.
Some recent comments in another thread about the prolific sunray!
Again with Sunray's seagull imitation; swoops in, squawks, drops a load of Guano and flies away to the next.
I have to agree... it doesn't matter what the subject is, whether he has any knowledge of it, the Guano gets left...
I don't think Sunray knows how to search his own posts in order to revisit them. Lol!
Its just stop, plop, and go!
I think if I were building a rifle specifically for moose at 500+ yards, I'd be looking at a cartridge in the 338 UltraMag or 340 Weatherby class myself. The 300's of the same families would be my choice if I were stuck on a 30.
I'd want very flat trajectory in a load that carries lots of energy at that distance.
I'd want very flat trajectory in a load that carries lots of energy at that distance.
Yea 500 yards with the right gear is not a tuff shot by any means
and yes at 500 yards with my little 6.5 x55 I'd stop a moose no problem
just dropped a 980 lb elk at 350 I have been hunting elk and moose for over 40 years and moose fall over elk don't
im shooting a 6.5 x55 and running a 140 grain at 3040 hot leaving the muzzel I have the same energy as as a 300 win mag 190 grain at 1000 yards
and I penetrate better every time . I always leave a big hole and the 300 dosent push through
this year
elk at 350
elk at 600
elk at 850
last year
562
650
lots at 350 - 500
and yes at 500 yards with my little 6.5 x55 I'd stop a moose no problem
just dropped a 980 lb elk at 350 I have been hunting elk and moose for over 40 years and moose fall over elk don't
im shooting a 6.5 x55 and running a 140 grain at 3040 hot leaving the muzzel I have the same energy as as a 300 win mag 190 grain at 1000 yards
and I penetrate better every time . I always leave a big hole and the 300 dosent push through
this year
elk at 350
elk at 600
elk at 850
last year
562
650
lots at 350 - 500
