Sks vs ar15-10

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I have been really looking at the AR style systems lately, mostly AR-10, however, being a really cheap Bas%@rd, every time I look at the price,, I question why!
Just because they are cool, yes that is good enough reason some times, however that is why I have a good few rifles and handguns in the safe, like my 59/66.
the question I wind up asking myself then is what, if anything, can the ar do, that the SKS cannot do AND vice versa!!
AR -cool, modern, lots of add ons, different styles, But restricted,, so just the range!
SKS- old schol cool!? cheap Ammo, reliable, reliable, can be made relaively accurate, Can buy ,3-10 Sks for the price of the AR! Add ons and upgrades are slowly coming on line for them! I can and did today hunt with the SKS!
I understand they are completely different beasts for possibly different rolls but not that much!
So do I buy on just because or what?
Any one else have plus or minus for these?
Cheers
 
bobdbldr said:
I have been really looking at the AR style systems lately, mostly AR-10, however, being a really cheap Bas%@rd, every time I look at the price,, I question why!
Just because they are cool, yes that is good enough reason some times, however that is why I have a good few rifles and handguns in the safe, like my 59/66.
the question I wind up asking myself then is what, if anything, can the ar do, that the SKS cannot do AND vice versa!!
AR -cool, modern, lots of add ons, different styles, But restricted,, so just the range!
SKS- old schol cool!? cheap Ammo, reliable, reliable, can be made relaively accurate, Can buy ,3-10 Sks for the price of the AR! Add ons and upgrades are slowly coming on line for them! I can and did today hunt with the SKS!
I understand they are completely different beasts for possibly different rolls but not that much!
So do I buy on just because or what?
Any one else have plus or minus for these?
Cheers
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Me too!
 
For me… the AR is more comfortable in every way imaginable in comparison to the SKS, better control, more accurate, quicker follow up shots.. this translates into confidence.

Not going to bash the SKS.. it serves it's purpose very well, and is cheap to own and operate. spending the dough on an AR is was a tough pill for me to swallow, for a range only toy.

However I highly advise you do get one, if you can swing it.

Sooo much smoother to shoot then an SKS.
 
Why restrict your view to the restricted AR varients? Have you looked at the Tavors, XCRs, ACRs, etc?

Cost more? Yes they do... but Non-Restricteds of this nature are worth it if you don't want to be tied to a range.

Trust me. No amount of bubbaing can make an SKS into a modern rifle. I have bubbed until i had spent 3x the value of the rifle and I learned it was an expensive lesson that an SKS will never be a tac rifle.

The VZ58 is a good intermediate step, but there is still another huge leap to a true modern sporting rifle like the AR or similar tactical style rifles.
 
A huge portion of the AR's "benefits" are nipped in the bud by our Canadian firearms law.

The general gist of it would be the extreme modularity, followed by the ability to separate the upper from the lower quickly and easily. Push out two pins and pop the upper half off, that gives you complete access to the barrel and the entire bolt carrier group as well as quick and easy storage and transportation options.

Within a few seconds you can go from something like a 9" barrel for supressed CQB with 300 Blackout, to a 20" barrel for intermediate-long range shooting or hunting or DMR duties with 6.8 SPC or good old classic .223 Remington. No supressors for us, so the example doesn't work perfectly but I hope you can see my point.

I for one always transport my AR in two pieces, because it cuts down about 10 inches off the necessary OAL at the cost of only a few more inches of case height.

I don't really know much about the SKS, I've deliberately stayed away from the surplus crowd, but I think it may have just been that the AR had the benefit of several decades more development work. A point to remember is that most of us are thinking of something along the lines of "M4A4" or "C8" current issue or whatever it's called, as opposed to the originals from the 50s, whereas the SKS itself hasn't been fundamentally changed since then, there have only been external adaptations.

Both work well within their intended roles, but I myself prefer the AR because I'm not a communist. ;) It just has the benefit of much more development and massive current market support. There are literally thousands of AR manufacturers and aftermarket supporters within North America alone. Yes, the SKS also has many supporters, but very few are actively developing and producing NEW product and upgrades for it. Even if they do, the fact remains that you're working with a 60+ year old receiver, don't get me wrong the basic AR design is old as balls, but the receivers and barrels and everything can be had as fresh as your heart desires and in many different configurations.

Now, just imagine if Colt, Armalite, Knights Armament, ATRS, and Noveske had existed back in the day and put their minds towards developing the SKS?
 
I have had 2 Russian and 1 Chinese SKS, loved them tried to make one into and accurate shooter and just gave up and sold it at a loss.

Bought an old school AR 20 plus years ago in 11.5" CAR -15 config and still love it. Even with the short barrel it is nice to shoot. Bought a .22 rimfire kit for rimfire shooting love the ease of modding this platform completely different animals.

Restricted yes but both only can use 5 round magazines, and I found shooting my SKS on Crown Land was a hassle with all the people quadding and such at least a range is controlled and safe plus I can bring my pistols as well. :)

What I did do to get the I must shoot in the bush fix is I bought a 100/22 and did an AR clone build as I found shooting my SKS at 100 yards or less for plinking got expensive and old fast. Shooting a can or clay at 100 yards with a .22 or 7.62 felt about the same.

I like the SKS and for the price cannot be beat but most buy them to plink and a .22 works just fine but as I said going from .223 to.22 in seconds is what I finally learned I wanted.

Remember a Norc AR is around 500.00 used and 600.00 new, add a .22 conversion kit for 250.00 and the ammo saving will close that gap quickly.

Randy
 
It all come to the firearms passion, many years ago i bought a dozen or so of différents SKS ranging from 99.00 to 399.00, i still have them, since that time i discovered precision stuff and i went for it...
Early in 2014 i discovered the AR platform and got a huge addiction for the most awsome SA rifle made but now price vary more from 1000.00 to 4000.00, in less than a year 5 have join the herd and more are coming, i like all firearms...
I still shoot a SKS once in a while... JP.
 
I don't have an SKS anymore, as I simply lost interest in it. However, the biggest benefit was the inexpensive food it was eating up. Low, low cost for anyone who actually wants to shoot their rifle as opposed to posing in front of the mirror with the thing. Also, it was non-restricted so it could be taken on a hunt or out to the country for target shooting.

ARs use relatively inexpensive ammo, but unless you're at an approved range shooting it, you're stuck posing in front of your mirror. What else you do with it, I don't need to know about.
 
I agree AR all the way range or not as really other than plinking and both being limited to 5 rounds what does the SKS give as opposed to the AR which can at least hit what you want and take optics as well as have the .22 rimfire option.

Like I said I got bored of plinking with my SKS as 7.62 is a waste on paper or cans......

Randy
 
randyhub said:
I agree AR all the way range or not as really other than plinking and both being limited to 5 rounds what does the SKS give as opposed to the AR which can at least hit what you want and take optics as well as have the .22 rimfire option.

Like I said I got bored of plinking with my SKS as 7.62 is a waste on paper or cans......

Randy
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I um.... kind of understand what you're trying to say. So, if "plinking" with an SKS with 7.62 is a "waste", then you can hunt legally with it. Can't do that with an AR.
 
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