Help Identifying mosin nagant .308 win

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Hi guys hoping if any one knows about a mosin nagant .308 win. I can't find anything much about it. Looks e a mosin less the bayonet and front cover. Has the sling slot in the stock. Not very many markings just what looks to be a small star. The different numbers on the bolt receiver stock and trigger assemb. does anyone know what it is?

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If it is actually .308 Winchester, and not 7.62x54R, it is most likely something someone made up.
Can you post a picture?
 
We'll I got some pictures but I don't have a pic hosting account but it definitely has cal .308 win on the barrel. Also the bolt lever looks to be shorter than others. I'll see if I can post some pics
 
To me it looks like the chamber area of the barrel is shorter than normal. It could easily have been set back enough to clean out the existing chamber. I used to have a couple of the Westinghouse Mosins that were converted to 30-06. They were set back as well. The only other thing different about the two I had was they had and extended extractor. They also fed from the existing mag without issues. If I hand loaded for them with 312 bullets, they shot very well.

There was a lot of hype about these actions not being strong enough for the 30-06. IMHO those comments were put out by writers that had no clue as to what they were talking about. Similar to those that berated the Japanese Arisaka actions.

IMHO, the rifle is plenty strong enough to handle the 308 Win round. Of course that is my opinion and you should do your own. The 7.62x51 Nato round which is dimensionally identical is usually loaded to slightly lower pressures than its commercial cousin.

It's pretty easy to make up a simple chamber cast out of plaster. Spray a bit of cooking oil or some other sticky lubricant into the chamber then plug the barrel with cotton batting or something similar. Place the muzzle in a downward facing position and pour a bit of plaster into the chamber and let it sit overnight. DO NOT CLOSE THE BOLT. In fact, pull the bolt or you will have to strip and clean it as well.

Plaster will not give you the exact dimensions but it will be close enough to make sure what the cartridge is. I have seen plastercene and silly putty used for this as well using a similar method of release but it can be easily pressed into the chamber by hand and then chilled to freezing or close to it and tapped out with a cleaning rod from the muzzle.
 
To me it looks like the chamber area of the barrel is shorter than normal. It could easily have been set back enough to clean out the existing chamber. I used to have a couple of the Westinghouse Mosins that were converted to 30-06. They were set back as well. The only other thing different about the two I had was they had and extended extractor. They also fed from the existing mag without issues. If I hand loaded for them with 312 bullets, they shot very well.

There was a lot of hype about these actions not being strong enough for the 30-06. IMHO those comments were put out by writers that had no clue as to what they were talking about. Similar to those that berated the Japanese Arisaka actions.

IMHO, the rifle is plenty strong enough to handle the 308 Win round. Of course that is my opinion and you should do your own. The 7.62x51 Nato round which is dimensionally identical is usually loaded to slightly lower pressures than its commercial cousin.

It's pretty easy to make up a simple chamber cast out of plaster. Spray a bit of cooking oil or some other sticky lubricant into the chamber then plug the barrel with cotton batting or something similar. Place the muzzle in a downward facing position and pour a bit of plaster into the chamber and let it sit overnight. DO NOT CLOSE THE BOLT. In fact, pull the bolt or you will have to strip and clean it as well.

Plaster will not give you the exact dimensions but it will be close enough to make sure what the cartridge is. I have seen plastercene and silly putty used for this as well using a similar method of release but it can be easily pressed into the chamber by hand and then chilled to freezing or close to it and tapped out with a cleaning rod from the muzzle.

This urban myth exists because military documents refer to a max pressure of 55,000 psi. What they meant to say, was 55,000 cup. The pressure limits of both 7.62 and 308 are about the same. I have tested both 308 (Winchester Supreme Match) and 7.62 (some IVI, don't have Lot # handy) that were both over 60,000 psi average pressure.
 
I was given one once and it looked so haywire I saved the bolt and stock and threw the barreled action away into a salal jungle on central Vancouver Island.
 
Looks like the bbl was pulled off and it was shortened..rethreaded and chambered to .308...interesting..have you shot her yet ??...Does she chamber and eject rounds ok..??..
 
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