Built "off" the action

[Rembo]

Why do I see so many references of custom rifles being built "off" of a Rem 700, Win 70 etc. action?

I have customs that I'm quite certain are built "on" the action of choice.

Where does the use of "off" in this context come from?

Just curious.

 

[hunter5425]

Same reason people say "bored of" instead of "bored with" , phrase usage has evolved or devolved depending on your point of view. I base this off of 32 years as a teacher

 

[BigUglyMan]

Looks like hunter5425 is taking the blame. Helluva guy!

 

[mosinmaster]

They blueprint an action, i.e. 700 and make it better or to their specs. Check out McMillan

 

[bearkilr]

It's an expression derived from those folks up south.

 

[crazy_davey]

Cabin fever is setting in early this year, eh Rembo

 

[hoytcanon]

This would seem to be a good time to bring up the ####-eyed designating of scope specifications that is so persistent... whenever I see it listed as; "3X9X40," I want to smack someone... why do you suppose that folks can't understand that the zoom range is 3 "to" 9 (3-9), NOT 3 "by" 9 (3X9)... how hard is it to figure out 3-9X40mm???

Someone??? Anyone???

 

[brybenn]

The barrel stock and scope hang off the action of course lol. Figure of speech. Lots of phrases make no sense

 

[kylegood]

i think i would state "built on win model 70 platform" or started life as a "win model 70 prior to..."

 

[alberta tactical rifle]

Personally I believe "assembled using a Rem 700 action" or what ever is closer to reality. There are damned few that actually "build" anything. Assemble a bunch of parts, yes, build , no.
It seems that the AR crowd is the worst for this type of terminology. Assembling an AR is childs play, actually building 1 from raw materials is a little more complicated.

But then again I am old school.

 

[RickF]

Ahhh... "Blueprint an action".

That's tomorrows topic!!

 

[MiG25]

Or a pair of binoculars.

 

[two-dogs]

This would seem to be a good time to bring up the ####-eyed designating of scope specifications that is so persistent... whenever I see it listed as; "3X9X40," I want to smack someone... why do you suppose that folks can't understand that the zoom range is 3 "to" 9 (3-9), NOT 3 "by" 9 (3X9)... how hard is it to figure out 3-9X40mm???

Someone??? Anyone???

golly darn, you are right! I read your post and then looked at the Leupold box that is right handy to me, and it says just that! I will never make that mistook again ever as long as I live! So be it, 3-9 it shall be! Thank you kindly for showing me the light onto the right path, my friend.

 

[bearkilr]

This would seem to be a good time to bring up the ####-eyed designating of scope specifications that is so persistent... whenever I see it listed as; "3X9X40," I want to smack someone... why do you suppose that folks can't understand that the zoom range is 3 "to" 9 (3-9), NOT 3 "by" 9 (3X9)... how hard is it to figure out 3-9X40mm???

Someone??? Anyone???

And then there's Sightron, they actually have markings on their SIII 8-32x56 scope as "832x56", what a joke.

 

[two-dogs]

Why do I see so many references of custom rifles being built "off" of a Rem 700, Win 70 etc. action?

I have customs that I'm quite certain are built "on" the action of choice.

Where does the use of "off" in this context come from?

Just curious.

I hear ya, "on"! Would, just wondering now, built "from" or built "with" be ok to say? I can go with "on" if it's the better word, no problem! I just wanna be correct when speaking.

 

[yodave]

I hear ya, "on"! Would, just wondering now, built "from" or built "with" be ok to say? I can go with "on" if it's the better word, no problem! I just wanna be correct when speaking.

you post is off the wall..............back to building off a bad idea on the work bench............

 

[blargon]

Same as selling a "take-off barrel". It was actually threaded in the action, not on it.

So next time, list it as a take-out barrel...

 

[yodave]

Same as selling a "take-off barrel". It was actually threaded in the action, not on it.

So next time, list it as a take-out barrel...

take out barrels are pinned into the action, take off are screwed in...............

 

[Joe549]

Personally I believe "assembled using a Rem 700 action" or what ever is closer to reality. There are damned few that actually "build" anything. Assemble a bunch of parts, yes, build , no.
It seems that the AR crowd is the worst for this type of terminology. Assembling an AR is childs play, actually building 1 from raw materials is a little more complicated.

But then again I am old school.

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Examples
Word Origin

verb (used with object), built or (Archaic) builded; building.
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to construct (especially something complex) by assembling and joining parts or materials:
to build a house.
2.
to establish, increase, or strengthen (often followed by up):
to build a business; to build up one's hopes.
3.
to mold, form, or create:
to build boys into men.
4.
to base; found:
a relationship built on trust.
5.
Games.

to make (words) from letters.
to assemble (cards) according to number, suit, etc., as in melding.

verb (used without object), built or (Archaic) builded; building.
6.
to engage in the art, practice, or business of building.
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to form or construct a plan, system of thought, etc. (usually followed by on or upon):
He built on the philosophies of the past.
8.
to increase or develop toward a maximum, as of intensity, tempo, or magnitude (often followed by up):
The drama builds steadily toward a climax.
noun
9.
the physical structure, especially of a person; physique; figure:
He had a strong build.
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the manner or form of construction:
The house was of modern build.
11.
Computers.

a version of a program after compilation, typically an update to an existing version made before the program is released.
the process of producing a software build.
a new version or update of data in a database or on a website:
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12.
Masonry.

a vertical joint.
the vertical dimension of a stone laid on its bed.

Verb phrases
13.
build in /into, to build or incorporate as part of something else:
to build in bookcases between the windows; an allowance for travel expenses built into the budget.
14.
build up,

to develop or increase:
to build up a bank account.
to strengthen.
to prepare in stages.
to fill in with houses; develop into an urban area.
to praise or flatter.

 

[snoopycda]

se·man·tics
səˈman(t)iks/
noun
the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. There are a number of branches and subbranches of semantics, including formal semantics, which studies the logical aspects of meaning, such as sense, reference, implication, and logical form, lexical semantics, which studies word meanings and word relations, and conceptual semantics, which studies the cognitive structure of meaning.
the meaning of a word, phrase, sentence, or text.

Does the phrase confuse you or just annoy you? Clip/Magazine, Pistol/Revolver, Blower/Turbo/Supercharger, if you are familiar with the subject, you know what I am talking about.