Canada Post Love-Hate and All Things "Shipping" Thread

the Kurgan that is a good happy ending.

here we know the word patience and shipping ... sometimes the truck is stuck in the snow or delayed ... and sometimes it shows earlier than scheduled but 2 weeks for a parcel coming from Edmonton is not unusual ...
 
This was my first bad experience with CP, and it will be my last time using XPost. What a waste of money.
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or maybe, they x-rayed the box, realized it was a gun and sent it on by ground..

If that is what happened, trust me, be glad Canada Post Corporate Security and the the RCMP did not show up at your door.


Do not use Xpresspost for firearms.

As I pointed out earlier, it would not be the first time that happened.

In the GTA (Toronto) area, there is actually a Team that consists of Border Services, RCMP, OPP and who is ever the local PD.

They are separate from the Guns and Gang units.

There team only handles Canadian Border Service problems with people and packages on entry into Canada.

I have seen them do runs on people that have ordered high cap mags in the mail.
 
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Glad that it all worked out!!
Seen this thread a little late I see, I live in BC and have had multiple transactions from AB ( PR ) and BC ( Wanst ) and I could time myself arriving, coming in from the airport from my camp job to intercept the firearm package before the wife ever got wind..... 9:30am on the day promised on the tracker each time!?! Maybe just a lucky mofo with this..... ;)

D.K.
 
Waterfowler said:
If I sell something for a shipped price without insurance, and the buyer declines insurance, it's gonna be his problem.
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Not legally. It's your responsibility to ensure the item gets to the buyer in the state it was advertised in. Unless you specifically get the buyer to waive your responsibility to deliver in writing no court would rule in your favour.
 
Gimli said:
Not legally. It's your responsibility to ensure the item gets to the buyer in the state it was advertised in. Unless you specifically get the buyer to waive your responsibility to deliver in writing no court would rule in your favour.
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Thanks.

Is this common law or civil law though or where is it stated???
 
Waterfowler said:
Thanks.

Is this common law or civil law though or where is it stated???
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It's contract law. The contract is that you provide a good and the buyer provides agreed-upon payment. If the buyer mails you a money order and it gets lost in the mail would you consider his obligation to be met? Why should yours be under the same circumstances?
 
Gimli said:
It's contract law. The contract is that you provide a good and the buyer provides agreed-upon payment. If the buyer mails you a money order and it gets lost in the mail would you consider his obligation to be met? Why should yours be under the same circumstances?
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I'm not referring to being lost. Thinking more about damage and if the buyer declines it when offered.
 
Waterfowler said:
I'm not referring to being lost. Thinking more about damage and if the buyer declines it when offered.
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Doesn't matter. The contract is for the goods in the state they were presented in. That's what you're contractually obligated to deliver, unless both of you agree otherwise clearly and in writing. The buyer just saying "no, I don't want insurance" doesn't meet that threshold. You'd have to get him to agree not to pay for insurance AND to accept the goods in whatever state they come in, whether it meets your description or not. I doubt many buyers would agree to that.
 
Gimli said:
Take whoever sold you the item to small claims court. It's always the obligation of the seller to ensure the buyer receives the object of the transaction in proper state, just as it's always the obligation of the buyer to ensure the seller receives payment. Those are the terms of the contract. Canada Post has nothing to do with it.
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Please remind me never to have any dealings with you. I would rather deal with someone that would work with me to solve the problem that have to deal with some clown that only wants to go the court route.......
 
I can only recall one lost piece. It was a Cooey 39 extractor. I cut a piece of corrugated cardboard to fit an envelope, slipped the extractor into one of the corrugations, and taped it in place. Seller reported that he never received it. Had my suspicions about that, but what do you do?
Over the years, I've mailed hundreds of guns, remarkable lack of problems.
I am rural. Excellent service from the local PO and the delivery persons we've had over the years.
 
Mount Sweetness said:
Canada Post is great, good luck without it.

This entire thread is B.S.
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Mount Sweetness said:
This entire thread is a Joke.

This was started as a Canada Post Hate thread, what a waste of time, ignorant.
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OK, thanks for the heads-up! Others may disagree with you on the value of this thread! Lots of good information and conversation.
 
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Gimli said:
Doesn't matter. The contract is for the goods in the state they were presented in. That's what you're contractually obligated to deliver, unless both of you agree otherwise clearly and in writing. The buyer just saying "no, I don't want insurance" doesn't meet that threshold. You'd have to get him to agree not to pay for insurance AND to accept the goods in whatever state they come in, whether it meets your description or not. I doubt many buyers would agree to that.
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No,
If the Buyer agrees that shipping the item via CP is acceptable and insurance is NOT required, then that in itself would waive any legal obligation the Seller has because it was sent via the Buyers terms. If it was damaged on the way to the PO (car accident), then it would fall under the sellers vehicle insurance.
It is then Sellers responsibility to package the item appropriately and deliver it to CP. The Seller hires CP to deliver package to the Buyer, and it is out of the Sellers control until the delivery takes place. If the item is lost or damaged along the way, then CP is responsible for it. The limit of their responsibility would be compensation in the form of a reimbursement of shipping cost and whatever subsequent Insurance claim is finalized. If there was no insurance on the transaction (which the Buyer refused), then that was the Buyers decision. Whatever funds recouped from CP would be paid to the seller, and if the seller was not in possession of the item i.e. The buyer didn't return it, then the Buyer should be forwarded those funds.

As a Seller I would be more than happy to work with a Buyer to come to a resolution, rather than waste everyone's time in court.

Your advise leads me to believe that you are either a Defense Lawyer, or sit around and watch too much Judge Judy.
 
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