6.5 caliber bullets in a hunting rifle? compare them
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Also the reason why .303 British is popular in some parts of the world, including here in NL, where nearly 20,000 moose are harvested every year - many of them with the .303. Sure, not all sub species of moose are created equal, but they all have a heart, lungs and CNS. The difference in energy between a 140 gr bullet in a 6.5x55 and a 150 gr bullet in a .308 is small, and either one of them in the 'boiler room' will produce the same results. A dead moose and a filled tag. A marginal shot in any cartridge is still a marginal shot. Do your part correctly and the cartridge will do its part.
Sorry I don't buy it. I own and regularly shoot a Savage 110 338 Lapua Magnum. Again prone or bench when your all nice and cozy with bags, rests, bipods etc is one thing. I don't care if your a US marine sniper. When you stand up and shoot standing while in the bush and turn to point at your target. Recoil matters. No I'm not saying "felt recoil" means owww it hurts. No I mean your a human being just like me and the recoil will push you back, regardless of how many times you watched American Sniper in the theatres. The argument here is not about felt recoil so lets not turn it into that, or condescending posts. I want to talk about actual facts on the cartridges and what they are capable of. Some guys feel more comfortable with a hand cannon, by all means to each their own. I would love to see group sizes of you and all your "non scared of recoil" friends. Shooting standing free hand 5 x 5 shot groups at 100 yards. Once with a 223 and once with a 300 win mag. With all do respect if you tell me there going to be equal your full of...
Throttle_monkey1
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OP- get a 6.5 if you like, it will be fine for moose. I would suggest finding a rifle and caliber combination that suits you well and practice with it. You'll be better served with a rifle that you shoot well consistently, know your bullet drop & your limitations & the limitations of your equipment.
Nevermind this "you need this much ft.lbs of energy". Animals don't die from kinetic energy. They die from the same things people do when being shot. CNS disruption, blood loss & organ damage/failure. Select a good bullet that will penetrate to reach the vitals & expand enough to cause a large permanent cavity. Any premium bullet should do this nowadays.
Nevermind this "you need this much ft.lbs of energy". Animals don't die from kinetic energy. They die from the same things people do when being shot. CNS disruption, blood loss & organ damage/failure. Select a good bullet that will penetrate to reach the vitals & expand enough to cause a large permanent cavity. Any premium bullet should do this nowadays.
throttle monkey I agree. I am trying to derail this thread to compare the 6.5 calibers. 260, 6.5x55, 264 win mag, 6.5 x 264 etc. which one and why. Lets take out this swear word called Moose. Lets just compare them as a general hunting gun
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Is this a serious post? Off hand with a 300 WM is no issue to many. Group size depends solely on the abilities of the shooter, how the rifle fits you and to a certain extent the rifle's ability, though off hand not so much. I have a Tikka in 300WM I guarantee I can get better groups with offhand at 100 than with my Benelli in 223 at 100 due to the aforementioned factors. A 300WM really doesn't have much recoil.
My friend your missing the point. I wasn't comparing the calibers as one is more accurate then the other. I'm comparing the persons ability to aim and shoot with different calibers. Yes your tikka 300wm will shoot tighter groups then your benelli, all day. But that's a rifle comparison and not what I am talking about.
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This is starting to look like the black rifle forum. Most of this has had little to do with the OP's question. Not sure why some of you guys would rather argue then discuss the question at hand.
I'm partial to the 6.5x55 of those you mention (but 6.5 Creedmor is starting to gather my attention):
I see Moose hide? and just behind the shoulder. Nice shooting. Your moose died of natural caused because your 6.5 wasn't enough lol ?
You mind I ask what loads and bullets you use? and what distance were you at? I'm just curious?
bearkilr
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It's exactly what you're talking about. You say everyone can shoot the lighter calibers better than the heavier ones. Not true. Just because you can't do it, don't think no one else can. Some people are more accustomed to recoil, in most instances due to more frequent shooting, better posture,etc.
This is turning into another one of those "bare minimum" threads and "all magnum calibers are unnecessary". What prize do you get for using a "just enough" caliber? I don't understand the fascination.
My god, these people just won't go away. What fascination do you have with extreme overkill? we can argue this like religion and politics.
Please people can we talk about 6.5 calibers and stop flexing muscles on how much recoil you can handle?
Very much so... people read a question and start an entirely different argument. Then the others post links to other threads that did the exact same thing. Hence why I opened a new one, hoping we could talk about the actual question. Here's to hoping
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What exactly is it that you want to talk about that hasn't been discussed ad nauseam in the very recent past?
I think your first line spells it out pretty clearly. Have fun.
Your really good at pulling items out of context. Try reading the two sentences following that one? Or did your eyes just pass those because as soon as you read the title you couldn't wait to tell me I'm a idiot and need a 338win mag for deer? Just leave your not adding anything valuable to the thread. And just by asking me what I want to talk about clearly shows me you never even read the original post. Because if you did and you needed to ask that you should be wearing a helmet in a padded room.
I'm partial to the 6.5x55 of those you mention (but 6.5 Creedmor is starting to gather my attention):
Hey man. Mind if I ask why? I can't figure out the CM's reason for existing when the 260 Rem exists. What are your thoughts?
From what I understand the creed more is hornadys version of the 260. It's gaining popularity because it achieves same velocity as 260 but at a much lower pressure I believe. So I guess you have a little ore cad capacity and some more room to make the load a hot one. I think that's the major difference. Not huge though.
