NEA-15 Question and commentary

I have a NEA DMR with around 500 rounds down the pipe, no issues. ............ Touch wood.

I do want to support a Canadian company whenever I can. I know the problems are a serious concern but I have alway heard NEA fixed things in the long run. Getting warranty work done in Canada is a huge plus for me. Does seem the bolts appears to be the weak link if something is going to go on these rifles. I'm prepared to buy a high end bolt if mine fails. Given NEA must have sold thousands of these in Canada I have not seen many serious failures. Really hope mine continues to hold up !
 
Leg said:
Selling your customers garbage is not good customer service. While they seem to be quick to replace broken parts, the fact that they still make it out the door is mind blowing.

I can appreciate buying Canadian but I won't hand my money over to a company that doesn't respect me enough as a customer to sell me a solid product.
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Totally agree with you here. Given these were $80 Lowers, I relinquished to the fact there might be some issues with it and there was, but nothing that couldn't be worked around. I can see the frustration of end-users with close to $1500 invested in and really feel bad for them.

You would think there would be at least some sort of in house test firing with proof rounds before going out the door. The proof rounds would show any flaws beit minor or major before shipping out to distributers then on to customers.
 
ShrtRnd said:
Totally agree with you here. Given these were $80 Lowers, I relinquished to the fact there might be some issues with it and there was, but nothing that couldn't be worked around. I can see the frustration of end-users with close to $1500 invested in and really feel bad for them.

You would think there would be at least some sort of in house test firing with proof rounds before going out the door. The proof rounds would show any flaws beit minor or major before shipping out to distributers then on to customers.
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There are proof rounds!!! Three of them to be exact! I didnt take any pictures but they did come with the firearm...
 
ShrtRnd said:
Totally agree with you here. Given these were $80 Lowers, I relinquished to the fact there might be some issues with it and there was, but nothing that couldn't be worked around. I can see the frustration of end-users with close to $1500 invested in and really feel bad for them.

You would think there would be at least some sort of in house test firing with proof rounds before going out the door. The proof rounds would show any flaws beit minor or major before shipping out to distributers then on to customers.
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My buddy got into one of those $80 lowers, don't think he dumped $1,500 to get it up and running, but if he did, I bet he'd be pissed because he's having trouble too and he's sticking to NEA parts, including a complete upper. For $1,500, you're getting into Colt Canada pricing. Still a Canadian company.

Jakebouts said:
There are proof rounds!!! Three of them to be exact! I didnt take any pictures but they did come with the firearm...
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can't remember where I read it, but I think CC fires 17 test rounds for their commercial rifles instead of the 37 they fire for their military customers.

My Norc had over 5,000 round through her before I sold her to a buddy (I know, dirty little whore, lol). My pal doesn't mind sloppy seconds, but he put another 2,000 rounds through her so far and has had no issues.
 
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My NEA15 with it's 12.5" bbl has always fired and ejected perfectly. Yup, there are a couple of NEA haters floating around but the vast majority of shooters who buy NEA are more than happy. I just came back from the range (field behind my house) and shot a rabbit (head shot) that will feed us tommorow. I really should do a major clean of my NEA....asides from pulling a couple of patches through the bbl I have not cleaned the bolt in close to 200 rounds....
 
Jakebouts said:
There are proof rounds!!! Three of them to be exact! I didnt take any pictures but they did come with the firearm...
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Just out of curiousity, are these "proof rounds" supplied coated around the primer/casing in a red dry paste/grease type coating?
 
Jakebouts said:
There are proof rounds!!! Three of them to be exact! I didnt take any pictures but they did come with the firearm...
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There was a member here who received an NEA rifle that wouldn't #### for two separate reasons, yet there were proof rounds in the box. Decide for yourself how a non firing rifle produces empty cases. Immaculate conception perhaps?
 
ShrtRnd said:
Just out of curiousity, are these "proof rounds" supplied coated around the primer/casing in a red dry paste/grease type coating?
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I'm pretty sure the ammo I got with the rifle were surplus... I just remember them having 95 stamped on them...
 
bazza said:
My NEA15 with it's 12.5" bbl has always fired and ejected perfectly. Yup, there are a couple of NEA haters floating around but the vast majority of shooters who buy NEA are more than happy. I just came back from the range (field behind my house) and shot a rabbit (head shot) that will feed us tommorow. I really should do a major clean of my NEA....asides from pulling a couple of patches through the bbl I have not cleaned the bolt in close to 200 rounds....
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In New Zealand are NEAs significantly cheaper than other ARs you guys can get?
I don't know much about your gun culture but I remember seeing some ludicrous prices on guns.
 
ShrtRnd said:
You would think there would be at least some sort of in house test firing with proof rounds before going out the door. The proof rounds would show any flaws beit minor or major before shipping out to distributers then on to customers.
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NEA does NOT use proof rounds. The use of proof rounds is pointless and somewhat stupid. The idea of a proof round is that it is significantly higher pressure and thus if there is a flaw, the gun will display damage of some kind as a result of the overpressure round. The problem with proof rounds is that over pressuring a firearm actually causes damage which can result in a failure many rounds later.

NEA fires a number of test rounds through their rifles. These are normal rounds and the idea is just to ensure the rifle feeds and fires as it is supposed to.
 
Jakebouts said:
Serial # is 12001413. And yeah let's just say I was fairly disappointed...
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The 12 stands for 2012 but they did make a batch of "12" marked ones in late 13 or early 14 due to someone not resetting the serials numbers when they switched machines.

Ryan
 
That is actually mostly false. It would charge fine if you pulled it right back or with slightly upwards pressure. If you applied any downward pressure you couldn't charge it. We had the gun sent back to us.

Ryan


mg4201 said:
There was a member here who received an NEA rifle that wouldn't #### for two separate reasons, yet there were proof rounds in the box. Decide for yourself how a non firing rifle produces empty cases. Immaculate conception perhaps?
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Chemist said:
The 12 stands for 2012 but they did make a batch of "12" marked ones in late 13 or early 14 due to someone not resetting the serials numbers when they switched machines.

Ryan
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Yeah they got back to me late last night... There are 12 stamped receivers and then they almost all go straight to 14. They also told me that on the 2014 and upward models they use S7 steel for their bolts and nickel plate them, they're making their BCG's in house, and are broaching their mag wells. Also, they cerakote the weapon now.
 
Chemist said:
That is actually mostly false. It would charge fine if you pulled it right back or with slightly upwards pressure. If you applied any downward pressure you couldn't charge it. We had the gun sent back to us.

Ryan
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Shockingly that whole thread mysteriously dissapeared. There were two reasons that rifle wouldn't ####. the first was a grossly over sized sling plate that blocked the charging handle. i don't remember what the second issue with that gun was. I searched for the thread but it no longer exists.
 
mg4201 said:
Shockingly that whole thread mysteriously dissapeared. There were two reasons that rifle wouldn't ####. the first was a grossly over sized sling plate that blocked the charging handle. i don't remember what the second issue with that gun was. I searched for the thread but it no longer exists.
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Yes the plate was too tall but it did charge without downward pressure. I still have the gun here...memories ;) it did have issues but it could be charged.
 
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I just received mine from SFRC the other day, which I had ordered a while back while on sale (took so long for Quebec to process...) My serial number is 13000640D. Where could get the info as to what the type of finish and if everything was made by NEA or not?
 
Suputin said:
NEA does NOT use proof rounds. The use of proof rounds is pointless and somewhat stupid. The idea of a proof round is that it is significantly higher pressure and thus if there is a flaw, the gun will display damage of some kind as a result of the overpressure round. The problem with proof rounds is that over pressuring a firearm actually causes damage which can result in a failure many rounds later.
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Yes, I'm aware of what proof loads do. I shot enough of them through Paras' LD/LDA/C7 etc during my time there to know they're not nice to shoot on a daily basis and they do expose any flaws. I think they were rated at 15% above a standard 240gr .45ACP load iirc.
 
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