Any 1 have issues registering the .300 blk ar15
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Uhhh, no?
My ATRS lower that I bought supposedly hadn't had a 16.5" barrel registered to it before, and after I completed it, the CFC tech did it when I was on the phone.
Sometimes they request a picture or something of it...
My ATRS lower that I bought supposedly hadn't had a 16.5" barrel registered to it before, and after I completed it, the CFC tech did it when I was on the phone.
Sometimes they request a picture or something of it...
If the lower is already registered, and the lower is the only part of the gun that is registered, then I dont get it. Why did you call them and tell them you had anything at all? Do you have to call them every time you change your upper, if you happen to have more than one but only 1 lower you swap out? Seems to me like the lower was already registered, so they didn't need any more info...?
So you have a restricted ATRS? or did you mean 18.5" barrel?
AR Lowers are the gun, if you choose to identify the gun with the upper you stand to open a whole new can of worms. Considering that the uppers are easily changed, don't know why one would want to do that long term. Especially if you are building something custom, then you get into barrel, calibre all needed to place the new combination into the FRT tables. You will likely have created a new listing which will then trigger a need to have the gun verified. IMHO
I recently bought a stripped NEA lower. The Buyer had the nice lady with the RCMP change the description of the firearm from having a barrel to being just a receiver. It really didnt seem like an issue.
With ARs' half the fun is being able to change your upper when ever you get the itch.
Maybe call them back and ask to have the receiver registered as just a lower.
Have fun with the .300!
cheers
With ARs' half the fun is being able to change your upper when ever you get the itch.
Maybe call them back and ask to have the receiver registered as just a lower.
Have fun with the .300!
cheers
If they have never had a lower/upper in that particular configuration registered before, they have to generate a new frt, and anything to do with the techs, can sometimes be a slow process. They may be trying to figure out if someone actually makes barrels in that length or if you made it with a hacksaw
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When the switched from a 14.5 to a 10.5 barrel , I had my good friend who is a firearm verifier submit a form to change the registration. This was done to cover my ass in case I get pulled over and they inspect the rifle. We all know what could happen if they see that the barrel is shorter, I don't want that hassle
exactly this... spoke at length with several ppl at the mother ship just days ago..
If it doesn't have an FRT they need the manufacturer of the barrel so they know you didn't just cut one down... If it correlates with their list of licensed manufacturers, they will quickly know all the specs (length for example) and after apprx 2 weeks to generate a new FRT number for your custom config *(unless one exists) they just send you a cert.
As for leaving it as receiver only.. IMO thats a gamble.. (at least in Morontario) Where is the 'red line' between rifle and receiver? After you install parts kit? Buffer tube? At what point is the LEO just going to throw a bunch of charges and let the court figure it out rather than sit around philosophizing about why your (well used) receiver-only is shooting such tight groups? I don't have deep enough pockets for that gamble
You are right though.. it is stupid.. No matter what config or barrel length it is ( except full auto ) it is going to be restricted.. I pointed this out.. Most of them know this. It is purely a database issue.. Surely a programmer could solve this.. but so could de-restricting the AR
And who made that database?? Was that the obama-care website guys? The ones who sent CACP guys lots of perks...?
FTR.. I spoke with Micheline and one other fellow whose name I didn't get (filling in for Herb).. Both of these ppl were very friendly and took time to help me understand the intricacies of the registration system and process.. While these ppl may or may not be firearms enthusiasts, they were knowledgeable of their system and how it applies to the AR at least.. IMO any fault lies within the system design, or perhaps bureaucratic issues above...
Just thought they should get their due... Thanks Micheline!
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I've never bothered to worry about keeping their database up to date. They know I have a restricted AR receiver and I can change uppers whenever I feel like it. If I ever got stopped I would tell them I just put that upper on yesterday and sold the old one. The upper is not a controlled item so as long as I have the lower properly registered and my ATT is in order it really isn't any of their business. I have 3 AR-15's which I can legally swap uppers around at will so why would I worry about them trying to control everything I do. I build buy and sell uppers regularly, that's my business not theirs.
If it really mattered the upper would also have a serial number and need to be registered.
No need to make things more complicated than they already are.
If it really mattered the upper would also have a serial number and need to be registered.
No need to make things more complicated than they already are.
Blow their puny little minds and call it a 30-221 or a 300-221 or a 300 Fireball.
No. The law says you have to notify them within 30 days. If you remove the upper and replace it the 30 days restarts.
I have 5 lowers and 8 or 9 uppers. That makes 45 individual possible combinations. Am I expected to have 45 registration certs for 5 rifles?
The issue here is most likely the 8.5" barrel length in 300BLK. Most of the barrels out there in Canada are 7.5" or jump to 12.5". Even if dealers imported various lengths to include the 8.5", it wouldn't have an FRT# until it was actually built up and registered to a lower.
You were probably the "lucky" first to register this length in Canada. There will already be an FRT# assigned to the lower, you're just waiting for the dash (-XX) to be assigned.
You were probably the "lucky" first to register this length in Canada. There will already be an FRT# assigned to the lower, you're just waiting for the dash (-XX) to be assigned.
