Question about the PAL 'cut on the line' paper
- Thread starter okshooter
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The paper says to keep with your license. I you are able to get the full name and number of someone at the CFO's office that told you it was OK to separate the two, then go for it. If you don't, and you are ever asked to produce it so the official can check if there are conditions and you don't have it....have fun with that.
ns_redneck
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yeah i have mine in my wallet just incase.
That piece of paper? That literally says nothing except 'keep this paper'. It's a bit of an enigma wrapped in a riddle. General consensus is don't worry if you lose it. Lost mine ages ago.
I guess if you have special conditions you should keep it. If not, who cares... I remember I brought this question up with two long time shooters, one had no idea what I was even talking about, the other lost his ages ago... And now I have too.
I guess if you have special conditions you should keep it. If not, who cares... I remember I brought this question up with two long time shooters, one had no idea what I was even talking about, the other lost his ages ago... And now I have too.
When I got my pal upgraded to rpal I was pretty excited about opening the enveloppe and totally forgot about that paper. I ended up ripping the enveloppe right in the middle by the card so I could see it faster. So I put the two pieces in the trash.
Many will say don't carry it, the document states you are required to. I carry mine, have I been asked for it? No, however, should the need ever I arise I'll have it, just stick it in the wallet and forget about it. I have discussed this with my MLA's office as it is a ridiculous requirement unless special conditions have been imposed. In this day and age with wireless connectivity, whatever 'special conditions' will show up on a computer check if run by police, wildlife officials, etc. I want to have it with me in the cases where the wireless connectivity isn't available i.e. while hunting as an over-enthusiastic junior/or grumpy senior LE official could legally spoil my day.
If you want to toss it as many suggest that's your choice but realize the potential 'storm de #####' you may be setting yourself up for.
If you want to toss it as many suggest that's your choice but realize the potential 'storm de #####' you may be setting yourself up for.
Has anyone, or does anyone have direct knowledge of, ever heard of someone who has been detained/arrested/charged/jailed for "missing a piece of paper?"
Granted, if it has special conditions, maybe. But if it is blank? I for one have never heard or seen anyone ever request or produce said piece of paper. Ever.
Granted, if it has special conditions, maybe. But if it is blank? I for one have never heard or seen anyone ever request or produce said piece of paper. Ever.
The answer is no.... bring it up to some shooting buddies, chances are almost half of them wont even know what you are talking about.
We all agree carrying a little piece of paper with no conditions on it is ridiculous, but why prod the beast? I liken this to using LAR/Beowulf or AIA magazines and carrying the RCMP bulletin on Magazine Capacities. While I am 100% in the right, I would rather produce a document in the field or on the road explaining why, versus at the station or in the cruiser, but that is just me.
Unless you have a George Costanza wallet and the last little piece of paper will cause it to explode, I don't see the issue.
Unless you have a George Costanza wallet and the last little piece of paper will cause it to explode, I don't see the issue.
For what is worth, I emailed them, and they replied in writing that I don't need to carry it if I have no special conditions. "They" being the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program. I'll still carry the stupid piece of paper until it completely disintegrates in my wallet, because a cop with a bad attitude and a little ignorance can still ruin your day or week whether you are right or not. I'm with Berger on this one.
Simply witting something on a piece of paper does not make it the law. Can you post what the charge would be should some one be found with out this piece of paper?
Shawn
