AR500 SHOOTERS CUT ARMOR will be in stock this friday, get the DISCOUNT NOW!

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Our next batch of armor will be in stock Friday, most of it has been pre sold to dealers and some clients, we have pre order discount still up, if you want the discount best order it before then

we have shooters cut 10x12 non shooters cut ( so called back plate) as well as curved L4 side plates in 6x8.

S&J
 
I don't mean to be disruptive, as I am interested.

But when you say it's heat treated to your specs, do you have any proof supporting it's legitimate ballistic ability?

I'm curious to know if you bought actual ar500 steal and coated it up here or if you are rebranding the actual product manufactured in the states or?

If I'm to trust these plates I want to insure they are designed to stop shots. What does the extra anti-spall coating insure? Why are you adding more if the "typical" ar500 plates are fine (as seen in videos)

Thanks.
 
If you did any research or even googled this or looked for past threads you would have your answer lots of independent video tests.


I don't mean to be disruptive, as I am interested.

But when you say it's heat treated to your specs, do you have any proof supporting it's legitimate ballistic ability?

I'm curious to know if you bought actual ar500 steal and coated it up here or if you are rebranding the actual product manufactured in the states or?

If I'm to trust these plates I want to insure they are designed to stop shots. What does the extra anti-spall coating insure? Why are you adding more if the "typical" ar500 plates are fine (as seen in videos)

Thanks.
 
I don't mean to be disruptive, as I am interested.

But when you say it's heat treated to your specs, do you have any proof supporting it's legitimate ballistic ability?

I'm curious to know if you bought actual ar500 steal and coated it up here or if you are rebranding the actual product manufactured in the states or?

If I'm to trust these plates I want to insure they are designed to stop shots. What does the extra anti-spall coating insure? Why are you adding more if the "typical" ar500 plates are fine (as seen in videos)

Thanks.

Copland
We have tones of data to back up our products inc lab testing at an certified blastic lab in quebec.
We do not rebrand. An thing
We are out to the ooffice untill later tooday will reply with details later
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Sj's reputation more than enough for me. He's not some home maker with a harbour freight mini lathe that runs his business like it's an etsy shop. The years of nothing but quality products and solid service make this the safest bet you'll find.

Plus I heard if you need to you can strap two together on your back if the mall is ever coming under heavy fire...
 
I don't mean to be disruptive, as I am interested.

But when you say it's heat treated to your specs, do you have any proof supporting it's legitimate ballistic ability?

I'm curious to know if you bought actual ar500 steal and coated it up here or if you are rebranding the actual product manufactured in the states or?

If I'm to trust these plates I want to insure they are designed to stop shots. What does the extra anti-spall coating insure? Why are you adding more if the "typical" ar500 plates are fine (as seen in videos)

Thanks.

Sounds disruptive to me!
 
Sj's reputation more than enough for me. He's not some home maker with a harbour freight mini lathe that runs his business like it's an etsy shop. The years of nothing but quality products and solid service make this the safest bet you'll find.

Plus I heard if you need to you can strap two together on your back if the mall is ever coming under heavy fire...

What about while I'm posted in a OP?
 
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Copland
We have tones of data to back up our products inc lab testing at an certified blastic lab in quebec.
We do not rebrand. An thing
We are out to the ooffice untill later tooday will reply with details later
Bbb

Thanks for responding. I'm just a bit confused as to what exactly is ar500? Is it a type of steel? Is the ar500 you carry going to be the same as someone else?

Similar to one machinist manufacturing an AR lower and just allowing other companies to put their on stamp on it.

Or in 4x4ing. Just because fabricators use DOM tube doesn't mean it came from the same source.

That's why I was asking. If you have lab testing, all the better. As I said. I'm interested I just want to do my homework. I wouldn't just throw a vest on because it's labeled "Armor Express"
 
Thanks. That answered a few questions. Was there any rational for the failure of the line-x costing?

Looks like an adhesion issue. Other videos the lining bubbled, trapping the fragments.

stupid long day for us, will reply in detail tomorrow
that plate was very early, the reason is the a few of the plates were sanded smooth, this is not the nest for the pre treatment to the metal before the anti spall coating
as seen in the video, you can see how smooth and shiney the plate is.
this here shows our new plates with 57 rds of 762 nato shot in les then 2 sec by 3 ar10s at the same time
 
I don't mean to be disruptive, as I am interested.

But when you say it's heat treated to your specs, do you have any proof supporting it's legitimate ballistic ability?

I'm curious to know if you bought actual ar500 steal and coated it up here or if you are rebranding the actual product manufactured in the states or?

If I'm to trust these plates I want to insure they are designed to stop shots. What does the extra anti-spall coating insure? Why are you adding more if the "typical" ar500 plates are fine (as seen in videos)

Thanks.

The plates are cut from custom made AR500 Steel as per requirements. Based
on our field tests as well as lab tests done by S&J partner James Horne Eng P.
We have all of the steel foundry test data and hardness tests for each
sheet that is made for us.
AR500 can come in a range of hardness and your off the shelf AR500 is not the same as what we are using, what it does work at times, the intent of AR500 was never intended to stop bullets, it was intended to be impact resistant on large surface like back-ho buckets , snow plow.
To get AR500 steel to work well as armor it has to be harder then ar500, which ranges from 430 brinell to about 480, but not too hard or it will crack, also to be noted, how the AR500 gets to the 500 rating depends on the Foundry and the clients needs.
Each plate is water jet cut , then edges are had ground , to remove any chance of embrittlement of the edge of the plate.
Then are formed /curved in one pass to reduce stress.
Plates then re heat treated and inspected , inc each plates is Lab
hardness tested for consistency, anything that falls out side out 2% range is then taken out and shot.
Then we sent for anti spall coating.
Coating is. Paxcon mil spec anti spall/ frag coating , while it is made by
a famous truck bed liner company, it is a very high grade product that is used by
the US navy for blast mitigation on battle ships.
We apply .250 on the front and .150 on the back face and over lap the edges.
we have been working with US based armor companies to get the right combo of how to apply the anti spall to the steel plate, its very heart warming to get help from people that you would think are our competition , but as we are in Canada, they are more then willing to help.

we are just about to get an L4 rating on our plates, many many tests have been done, but the ballistic labs we are using for the NIJ testing is backed up.
We re issue/test out plates any time, we change or upgrade and of the specs or MFG process .
we will gladly post the reports on the new plates when we have them.

The good news is the s&j plates and likely the best made AR500 plates on the market.
And the only one to offer a L4 Steel plate

These plates are intended to be offered as a low cost high quality made in Canada product, for people that don't have the funds or are not issues $1000 plate sets.
I was shocked at how many LEO,s have ordered our plates, we are trying to fix that.
While not as cheap as other AR500 plates in the USA, we feel, we have a higher quality product.
Also to be noted, you can not export these types of finished goods out of the US, unless its for an agency in Canada, it is also months and months of paperwork.

Could we do it cheaper? for sure, but then we would not put our name on it, like all of our products, they are " bet your life on it quality"
We are proud to say, we don't have a fast warranty department," like other Canadian companies" , as we see very few issue, doing it right the first time, is what we try to do.
Fast warranty replacement will not help you when your in the moment, be in a competition ,back packing in bear country, busting bad guys or in the sandbox.

BBB
 
Hi. I am totally new to plates. Can you telle the differences between non shooters and shooters cut plates, and their pros and cons? Maybe also add some pictures. I also have a vest but not sure which ones will fits.

whats the difference between level 3 and 4?
how long you can store them for emergency events?

Thanks
 
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Hi. I am totally new to plates. Can you telle the differences between non shooters and shooters cut plates, and their pros and cons? Maybe also add some pictures. I also have a vest but not sure which ones will fits.

whats the difference between level 3 and 4?
how long you can store them for emergency events?

Thanks

Yes pics are a bit lacking. Will get that fixed

L3 will stop muti hit 223 and 308. X39. Etc
L4 will stop 3006. X54 bigger hunting rounds like 300 win mag etc.

They should last forever.
Even if you treat then. Rough
 
Yes pics are a bit lacking. Will get that fixed

L3 will stop muti hit 223 and 308. X39. Etc
L4 will stop 3006. X54 bigger hunting rounds like 300 win mag etc.

They should last forever.
Even if you treat then. Rough

Whats the difference between shooters and non shooters cut?
 
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