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I am new to forum and am wondering if the AK-47 would ever have antique status? And would we be able to purchase them then? How old does a rifle have to be to be antique?

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Why are prices so high at gun shows? I saw plain SKS going for $400 to $600? I guess people think not everybody shops online but my local gun shop just down the street is selling SKS for about $220.
 
My guess would be not anytime soon or maybe the year 2126 lol, those guns are too widely used to gain an antique status anytime soon, plus its a machine gun, even a converted semi auto 1919 BAR is not antique yet.

Gun shows are gong shows its rare to find a really sweet deal, unless the seller knows nothing about what they are selling.
 
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My guess would be not anytime soon or maybe the year 2126 lol, those guns are too widely used to gain an antique status anytime soon, plus its a machine gun, even a converted semi auto 1919 BAR is not antique yet.

Gun shows are gong shows its rare to find a really sweet deal, unless the seller knows nothing about what they are selling.
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Did you seriously just drop the machine gun line? There are semi auto AKs. The only thing making them different than any other semi auto is the entire type is named prohibited by oic. Remove that oic and they would be classed on features and be NR or R.

Antique is a classification. Like non restricted, restricted and prohibited.

It is a fixed classification. The age of the firearm is only one characteristic.
 
[wise-ass]well the AK-47 specifically, is an automatic firearm..."AK-type" or semi-auto "variants" are a different story, why they are prohib is beyond me, when I can shoot straighter with the same cartridge, from a whole slew of non-restricted alternatives...[/wise-ass]
 
The short version, is that the Canadian antique regs for rifles state a firearm has to be manufactured before 1898, be a rimfire (but not .22), or be centerfire with a bore exceeding 8.3mm. Then there is a confusing part about if magazine-fed rifles are excempt from the bore requirement or are simply NEVER eligible for antique status.

So, the AK47 will never have been manufactured before 1898, so will never be antique.

The AK-47, in 7.62x39 will never have a bore exceeding 8.3 mm, so will never be antique.

Then, the confusing part (for me) - the AK is magazine-fed, so it won't be antique regardless of any of the other criteria, OR, it is excempt from the 8.3mm bore requirement. But since it failed the first criterion (manufactured before 1898) it still won't ever be antique.

Unfortunately, the date part (1898) is never updated in Canada. The reg. doesn't say "100 years old" for example, which would have put that date up to 1915 by now. Instead, it casts the year 1898 in stone, so none of the newer stuff will ever be antique.

That is my understanding, anyway.

Plus, there are those pesky full-auto issues too for some of them.

And further - can a firearm that is a prescribed prohibited firearm ever be in any other classification (such as antique)? Somehow I suspect the answer to that is also "no" but I don't know for sure. I don't believe there is currently any example of a prohib. by Order-In-Council that could meet the antique provisions, so there isn't any law saying which takes precedence. Usually, the more restrictive law takes precedence, so again, the AK is unlikely to be antique.

Just my thoughts.
 
SVT-40 sniper said:
I am new to forum and am wondering if the AK-47 would ever have antique status? And would we be able to purchase them then? How old does a rifle have to be to be antique?

ANOTHER QUESTION OFF TOPIC:

Why are prices so high at gun shows? I saw plain SKS going for $400 to $600? I guess people think not everybody shops online but my local gun shop just down the street is selling SKS for about $220.
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I'm guessing not your avg molot Russian refurb. German, Albanian, Korean and even some Chinese and Yugos can easily command 600. So can a few specific Russian Sks's
 
Vendors at gun shows tend to have pretty high views of their firearms - and their prices at times indicate this. This is not unlike some cases on the EE here too where people ask more for a used firearm than a new one ... On another note, I am afraid that the AK series of rifles are unobtainium here - unless you have the good fortune of getting a deal on a Valmet; and from looking at the EE, a Valmet is rare and a good deal on one even more so.
 
You would think the WW1 rifles are considered antique these days like a ross. A car s considered an antique at 30 years I think.
 
I guess it also shows how little firearms have changed in the last 100 years, a hunting rifle is still an old fashioned bolt action.
 
Answer is...only if the date of the antique cut off changed and fact of the ammo being obsolete and lastly... mag fed rule So answer is only when we get laser guns etc. Lol.
 
The AK will not change its status from prohib as long as they keep classifying the guns based on the fear factor rather than common sense. Get a VZ58 instead it's a great shooter.
 
The guns considered antique usually are black powder and a lot of them are unsafe to shoot except with anemic rounds in the first place. Most guns made to shoot smokeless powder will with proper care always be safe to shoot even when they are 400 years old let alone 100 years. So doubtful they will be considered antique except for their age like guns from the 1800,s.
 
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