Stop the RCMP!

greentips said:
This is mine:

Honourable Steven Blaney,

It has come to my attention that the RCMP has the intention to issue a new interpretation of Part 4 of the "Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted". Specifically, it is concerning the use of magazines commonly referred as "LAR15" pistol magazines and its status related to clause 3(1)(b) concerning magazines that are "originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada."

The intention of clause 3(1)(b) is to make sure that law abiding Canadian citizens will not be prosecuted for possessing 10 round pistol magazines that happen to work in rifles, as long as the magazines are designed or made by the factory to use in a pistols. Otherwise, anyone who happens to own a pistol and its magazine will be under constant threat of prosecution, if somehow its magazine can be used in a rifle. Without the straight adherence to the intention of the law, great injustice would be resulted.

If the status of magazine that is clearly marked and manufactured for a pistol can be disregarded by the RCMP, this would pervert the intention of the law and therefore the will of the parliament. A government bureaucracy cannot be allowed to make interpretation of the law that takes away protection to its citizens. To allow so, the government is essentially unloading its responsibility to its executive branches.

As a voter, how can I trust a government and allow it to rule, if it cannot ensure the intention of the law is fulfilled by its executive branches?

Sincerely
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Wow. You went into legal beast mode.

Mine was along thie lines of: This s*** of f***ed up! , we will over come, #gunrightsmatter.
 
Just heard back from my MP's office:

"Hello Mr. Sharpe,

Thank you for contacting the office of Mr. Jack Harris, M.P. on this matter. I wanted to take a moment to let you know that your email has been received and read. I will bring this to the attention of Mr. Harris.

I am really not sure if these claims about RCMP wanting to make these changes to rules on certain magazines used in sporting riffles can be substantiated. I am copying the Official Opposition Critic for Public Safety Randel Garrison on this email to make sure he is aware of your concern. If I hear anything further about this, I will certainly pass it along to you.

Thank you again for taking the time to write.

Regards,
Bill"

Their NDP....so I don't have a huge amount of faith that this will go anywhere,but we have to try.
 
Lets stop chewing on each other here. One if you dont push for things you will not get them, how do you think the gun control nuts got what they wanted they pushed for them. Nothing is to be gained without risking something. If anything the people who are pointing out the uselessness of the mag laws with the lar-15 and beowulf mags are doing a service.

This is a at least coming to light when the government in charge is a friendly one. What recorse would there be with a NDP or Liberal majority. At least now we have people who want to be re-elected and can be motivated to do something for us. The time it takes to throw blam is time that could be used to write your member of parliment a personal, professtional and courtous letter addressing your concerns. Always remeber emails get caught in spam folders all the time faxes fall behind desks and mail is misdelivered, so its best to do all three and hedge your bets.
 
just found this in my spam box of all places

Thank you for writing to the Prime Minister.

Please be assured that your comments have been noted and that they will receive due consideration from the Minister, who has already received a copy of your correspondence.

For more information on the Government's initiatives, please visit www.pm.gc.ca.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.

J.P. Vachon
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greentips said:
This is mine:

Honourable Steven Blaney,

It has come to my attention that the RCMP has the intention to issue a new interpretation of Part 4 of the "Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted". Specifically, it is concerning the use of magazines commonly referred as "LAR15" pistol magazines and its status related to clause 3(1)(b) concerning magazines that are "originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada."

The intention of clause 3(1)(b) is to make sure that law abiding Canadian citizens will not be prosecuted for possessing 10 round pistol magazines that happen to work in rifles, as long as the magazines are designed or made by the factory to use in a pistols. Otherwise, anyone who happens to own a pistol and its magazine will be under constant threat of prosecution, if somehow its magazine can be used in a rifle. Without the straight adherence to the intention of the law, great injustice would be resulted.

If the status of magazine that is clearly marked and manufactured for a pistol can be disregarded by the RCMP, this would pervert the intention of the law and therefore the will of the parliament. A government bureaucracy cannot be allowed to make interpretation of the law that takes away protection to its citizens. To allow so, the government is essentially unloading its responsibility to its executive branches.

As a voter, how can I trust a government and allow it to rule, if it cannot ensure the intention of the law is fulfilled by its executive branches?

Sincerely
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Thank you , Sent
 
Dexter Morgan said:
That would by my guess.

I think they'll just say that any magazine that can fit and function in a semi-auto, center-fire rifle needs to be pinned at 5 rounds. That would include LAR, Glock, Beretta, 1911, and most other handgun mags.

Semi-auto shotguns will need to be blocked to hold no more than 5 rounds of 2.75" ammo, regardless of what the gun is chambered for.

Bewoulf mags will only be legal if the follower is modified so they cannot feed .223 ammo. (Otherwise they must be pinned to 5 rounds of .223)
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Are you looking for a job in either the RCMP bureaucracy or the Liberal party or something? I know it's just casual guesswork, but why even give them a shred of something to consider as ideas for their utopian police state? Let the dorks think it up all on their own, thank you very much.
Better to put our energies into making constructive arguments and writing letters to our MP's than wasting time postulating what these would-be social engineers may or may not do, and giving them broad outlines of a sinister plan to implement at the same time. Nobody here will give you brownie points or be amazingly impressed if you happened to guess right, in the unfortunate case it actually ever sadly came to fruition. They may just simply think you helped contribute a few perverse, evil ideas that these twits were able to seize upon and borrow to rewrite their rules. Let them create evil on their own.
 
El_Monty457 said:
This is utterly ridiculous.
So the implication is the RCMP has "had enough" of us (licensed, law-abiding gun owners) having access to LAR, Beowulf or E-Lander mags? Had enough of us doing WHAT grievous things with them? Had enough of seeing us use them SAFELY as licensed gun owners, and NOT having a single accident at a range attributed to an extra capacity mag? Had enough of there NOT being a single crime committed by a law-abiding AR owner who owns a Beowulf or LAR mag? Yes, I can certainly see their (RCMP's) point, due to the huge wave of carnage that must be spilling out on our streets as I type this (NOT !), all due to legally available 10 or 15 round mags owned by licensed holders of RPALS??, who must certainly be the scourge of society, and not worthy of trust,... ... MAINLY because the RCMP approved all of us. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

If they think so lowly of us that we cannot be trusted still, AFTER already having passed their requirements for the issuance of our licenses, and having a history of conducting ourselves safely at ranges and public shooting events throughout the country, then does this imply that they have reservations about our safety or our conduct? If they have made such serious errors in judging the character, skill and/or safety of of all us tens or hundreds of thousands of legal gun owners in Canada, then maybe they must be also implying that they are not up to the job of evaluating us accurately. Is it possible that these high up bureaucrats in the RCMP office who came up with this pretzel logic on mag capacity rules just don't know what they're doing? They do seem to be changing their mind about things fairly often, and re-writing their own rules at the drop of a hat. I think it's a cry for help. Perhaps they need to be relieved of some of their hard and tricky duties, like trying to tell the BASIC difference between the good guys and the bad guys. Between law-abiding gun owners versus criminals who laugh at the law. If that's too much to ask of them, and they can't see that difference clearly, then they are in the wrong job, or maybe the wrong country. If that's the way they want to do their job, I think they need to move to a banana republic where it suits their philosophy better.
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Some of the points above should be included into the letter. let them see the real emotion
 
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TSE JR said:
Here is the contact information.

The Honourable Steven Blaney
Email:steven.blaney@parl.gc.ca

Hill Office
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada
K1A 0A6

Telephone: 613-992-7434
Fax: 613-995-6856

Mail may be sent postage-free to any Member of Parliament.

Constituency Office(s)
115 President Kennedy Road (Main Office)
Suite 101
Lévis, Québec
G6V 6C8
Telephone: 418-830-0500
Fax: 418-830-0504
1516-D Route 277
Lac-Etchemin, Québec
G0R 1S0
Telephone: 418-625-2626
Fax: 418-625-4663

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Parliamentaria...ney(35389)
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what should the letter exactly say ?
 
Probably said here before but... "Everyone raise their right hand for gun control!" *Hitler Salute*. Saw that at my old range as a kid, still amusing and still very true. We deserve our rights as legal gun owners who are licensed to own and safely operate our arms.
 
Do you guys realize that the regulations have not changed? LAR mags are still legal. Unless of course they ban LARs which is an entirely different letter.

FF
 
fenceline said:
When the police tell you something is legal, then change their minds and attempt to prosecute you for doing what they told you was legal... that is the definition of entrapment. Just saying.

They are opening themselves up to a few lawsuits with this one. Keep your old copies of the bulletin as reference.
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where is the old copy of the bulletin. I can't find it book marked...
 
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