IPSC Carry Condition

If you are shooting in production division you must start with"hammer down" so you have a double action first pull. With the hammer down, you do not need to apply the safety when the firearm is holstered. If the hammer is cocked back the safety must be applied, no matter what division you are in.

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PlaidSon said:
Do 1911s then have to be cocked for the first shot in production class?
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1911 is a Single Action only gun and according to IPSC Single Action is not allowed in Production Division.
1911 can be in Standard, Classic or Open division.

Production require to be shot first in Double Action mode. You can shoot a production in Single Action mode first but you will be in a standard class.

As for the 92fs in ipsc its a very rare gun to see, the safety is teh suck. Its not a popular gun in ipsc.
 
To continue on Happypillz point; if you use a 1911 and that stage is loaded and holstered the 1911 can be cocked but you will have your safeties activated. All you need to do is deactivate the thumb safety after you draw.
 
I know the beretta isn't ideal but I'm taking the black badge course and thats my best option. The otherbeing a Norinco 1911but I'm left handed and haven't had the chance to put an ambidextrous safety on. And the sights are too small for quick firing in my opinion. I'll replace them eventually, because it groups impressively well.

When the bug hits hard it'll probably be something along the lines of an M&P40 for me.
 
I did my BB with a 92fs. Just run it hammer down safety off. When you load it you'll rack one in the chamber then decock it using the safety, then flio the safety to off. And you are good to go.
 
I have shot a Beretta in IPSC for a long time, it's not the most popular in Canada, it is more prevalent in the states. Works fine, shoots anything you can feed it, accepts fully loaded mags without a fight, rarely if ever jams in my experience, and I have shot a lot of rounds through it. If it's your go to gun, just get a spare locking block, they do fail (crack) on occasion.

Load up, decock/hammer drop, flip safety off, holster. Draw and fire first shot double action, then carry on shoot all A's. Lather, rinse, repeat...
 
the mags i just bought are a fight. I'm hoping the spring works in a bit. I've got thousands through the 2 stock mags and they're a dream now. I'm leaving the new ones loaded with snap caps to hopefully work the spring a bit before the course.
 
PlaidSon said:
the mags i just bought are a fight. I'm hoping the spring works in a bit. I've got thousands through the 2 stock mags and they're a dream now. I'm leaving the new ones loaded with snap caps to hopefully work the spring a bit before the course.
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New mags are a pain until the springs relax some, except those M&P mags, they seem to be really highly sprung, even after clipping a coil.
 
PlaidSon said:
I know the beretta isn't ideal but I'm taking the black badge course and thats my best option. The otherbeing a Norinco 1911but I'm left handed and haven't had the chance to put an ambidextrous safety on. And the sights are too small for quick firing in my opinion. I'll replace them eventually, because it groups impressively well.

When the bug hits hard it'll probably be something along the lines of an M&P40 for me.
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My 1911 has only the right hand safety. When you shoot weak (left) hand, you still draw with your right hand, thumb the safety off and then transfer the pistol to your left hand. They'll show you how to do this in the BB course.
 
Bugout said:
My 1911 has only the right hand safety. When you shoot weak (left) hand, you still draw with your right hand, thumb the safety off and then transfer the pistol to your left hand. They'll show you how to do this in the BB course.
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he would have have to do that on every single draw since he is left handed... much better off just shooting something that works left handed.
 
Slavex shot a Beretta for a while, and so did Ben Stoeger. Nothing wrong with a 92 - if you like the gun and shoot it well, no need to change. Personally I hate the safety, and would much prefer a "G" model that's a decocker only.
 
Just out of curiosity are you allowed to remove the safety on the 1911? I only ask because my M&P doesn't have a safety. I don't shoot IPSC. Just thinking out loud.
 
The primary safety must be functional for IPSC; for a 1911, this means you can disable the grip safety, but the thumb safety must function. Regardless of what game you're playing, using a single action gun without a safety (ie holstering) is one of the stupidist things you could possibly do.
 
crash277 said:
showing my limited knowledge of 1911's.... (might have to buy one). i'm assuming only the thumb safety would cause an issue for a south paw?
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The thumb safety on any 1911 can be outfitted with an aftermarket ambidextrous version- many "off the shelf" 1911s come so equipped. This is the most important accessory southpaw 1911 operators add/modify.
 
PlaidSon said:
When the bug hits hard it'll probably be something along the lines of an M&P40 for me.
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If you're thinking about the M&P40 just because you want one, that's fine. IPSC definitely promotes "run what you brung". However if you're choosing a gun to compete with the 9 is a better choice. Production class doesn't recognize Major or Minor calibers. Everything is scored as Minor. The additional recoil of the 40 would put you at a disadvantage. You could shoot the 40 in Standard / Major which scores non-center hits a little higher but the double stacked single action 40's dominate that class.
 
Viper26 said:
If you're thinking about the M&P40 just because you want one, that's fine. IPSC definitely promotes "run what you brung". However if you're choosing a gun to compete with the 9 is a better choice. Production class doesn't recognize Major or Minor calibers. Everything is scored as Minor. The additional recoil of the 40 would put you at a disadvantage. You could shoot the 40 in Standard / Major which scores non-center hits a little higher but the double stacked single action 40's dominate that class.
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You could shoot 40 minor. 40 Light load is very soft. Softer then 9mm. I do shoot sometimes minor 40.
 
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