'What lion?' Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus

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The sheep have bleated loudly in a herd and on cue, actual facts are coming out, the sheep will move on to the next catastrophe they're steered to be aghast about. None of them will pay attention to or remember the actual facts, just as peta knew they wouldn't. In the sheeps minds now anyone who hunts killed a cuddly looking lion that they think could have been their pet.


HARARE (Reuters) - As social media exploded with outrage this week at the killing of Cecil the lion, the untimely passing of the celebrated predator at the hands of an American dentist went largely unnoticed in the animal's native Zimbabwe.

"What lion?" acting information minister Prisca Mupfumira asked in response to a request for comment about Cecil, who was at that moment topping global news bulletins and generating reams of abuse for his killer on websites in the United States and Europe.

The government has still given no formal response, and on Thursday the papers that chose to run the latest twist in the Cecil saga tucked it away on inside pages.

One title had to rely on foreign news agency copy because it failed to send a reporter to the court appearance of two locals involved.

In contrast, the previous evening 200 people stood in protest outside the suburban Minneapolis dental practice of 55-year-old Walter Palmer, calling for him to be extradited to Zimbabwe to face charges of taking part in an illegal hunt.

Local police are also investigating death threats against Palmer, whose location is not known. Because many of the threats were online, police are having difficulty determining their origins and credibility.

Palmer, a lifelong big game hunter, has admitted killing Cecil with a bow and arrow on July 1 near Zimbabwe's Hwange national park, but said he had hired professional local guides with the required hunting permits and believed the hunt was legal.

For most people in the southern African nation, where unemployment tops 80 percent and the economy continues to feel the after-effects of billion percent hyperinflation a decade ago, the uproar had all the hallmarks of a 'First World Problem'.

"Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

As with many countries in Africa, in Zimbabwe big wild animals such as lions, elephants or hippos are seen either as a potential meal, or a threat to people and property that needs to be controlled or killed.

The world of Palmer, who paid $50,000 to kill 13-year-old Cecil, is a very different one from that inhabited by millions of rural Africans who are more than occasionally victims of wild animal attacks.

According to CrocBITE, a database, from January 2008 to October 2013, there were more than 460 recorded attacks by Nile crocodiles, most of them fatal. That tally is almost certainly a massive underrepresentation.

"Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."

http://news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabweans-ask-amid-global-cecil-circus-140822692.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
 
Too bad they couldn't get an official interview. Most people in our country don't know what's going on in current events either.

I'm waiting to see a similar article that talks with actual officials.

This foaming at the mouth over this incident is scary stuff though... glad most of the people freaking out are anti gun haha.
 
Too bad they couldn't get an official interview. Most people in our country don't know what's going on in current events either.

I'm waiting to see a similar article that talks with actual officials.

This foaming at the mouth over this incident is scary stuff though... glad most of the people freaking out are anti gun haha.

Really? Read some of the comments on this site coming from fellow hunters and shooters. Social media has turned the general population into feebleminded idiots.
 
The most shameful part of this story is the way the Media and celebrities have sensationalized this story so much, before all the facts and truths have been given. Like CCN drooling from the mouth at the inkling of a war starting in any part of the world. It 's quite sickening.
 
Really? Read some of the comments on this site coming from fellow hunters and shooters. Social media has turned the general population into feebleminded idiots.

Feebleminded idiots with a serious chip on their shoulders, agreed. But really, yes I said what I meant. I have read a lot of comments. I haven't seen the death threats posted by our members on this site. Would be an eye opener though, point me to any comments you are referring too... The scary comments that sound like legitimate threats seem to come from people who claim to value life and peace and bunny rabbits. I'm not sure how to label them, but they don't like guns because guns are for killing! In the same breath they call for a man to be hung.
 
If you want a good read, go look up Dr. Walt Palmer in Minn. on YELP!
I have never seen such a congregation of PETA, lefties and vegans in one place!
At this point, it doesn't matter what the truth is. The guy's life is completely ruined.
Judged, juried and executed.
 
Feebleminded idiots with a serious chip on their shoulders, agreed. But really, yes I said what I meant. I have read a lot of comments. I haven't seen the death threats posted by our members on this site. Would be an eye opener though, point me to any comments you are referring too... The scary comments that sound like legitimate threats seem to come from people who claim to value life and peace and bunny rabbits. I'm not sure how to label them, but they don't like guns because guns are for killing! In the same breath they call for a man to be hung.

Not death threats, no. 'Off Topics' is mainly where the sheep are bleating. :)
 
I don't think it's fair to call ppl with different opinions to you ' feeble minded idiots' While I actually see the point of the article and actually somewhat agree... It doesn't change the fact that this guy poached a lion does it?

Too much over the top anger over a first world problem? Sure... But its hard to defend a guy illegally poaching lions and leaving the meat to rot in the sun. Perhaps more the guides fault than his... But someone was not obeying the law imo. It's not too much to ask to respect the laws around hunting. I do it, no big deal. Now go ahead and call me an idiot bc I somewhat disagree with you .

Oh and yes I'm sure by nex wk there will be some other issue for ppl to go crazy over on social media... My guess is it might be lobster fishermen, I don't know just a guess.
 
It's like a few years ago when Melissa Bachman posted a picture with a lion she hunted. Morons like Jimmy Kimmel and the people who outsource their thinking to them are shocked to find out that hunting in Africa is still a real thing. They make no distinction between industrial scale poaching, especially of rhinos where the threat of extinction is very real, and licensed hunts for lions or whatever. Now it looks like this dentist's hunt may indeed have been illegal, assuming it was, it's an isolated incident. The progressive masses don't get that hunting provides a huge incentive to preserve habitat for African wildlife.

If Jimmy Kimmel really wanted to help wildlife, he'd use his influence to mock those who believe that rhino horn will help reinvigorate their manhood.

Of course I'm hardly an expert but I think the other element needed to stop real threats to African wildlife is to pay South African mercenaries to really solve the problem, before the 32 Battalion vets get too old.
 
I don't think it's fair to call ppl with different opinions to you ' feeble minded idiots' While I actually see the point of the article and actually somewhat agree... It doesn't change the fact that this guy poached a lion does it?

Too much over the top anger over a first world problem? Sure... But its hard to defend a guy illegally poaching lions and leaving the meat to rot in the sun. Perhaps more the guides fault than his... But someone was not obeying the law imo. It's not too much to ask to respect the laws around hunting. I do it, no big deal. Now go ahead and call me an idiot bc I somewhat disagree with you .

Oh and yes I'm sure by nex wk there will be some other issue for ppl to go crazy over on social media... My guess is it might be lobster fishermen, I don't know just a guess.

Did he poach a lion? I don't know I wasn't there. I think we should wait for all the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions.
 
I don't think it's fair to call ppl with different opinions to you ' feeble minded idiots' While I actually see the point of the article and actually somewhat agree... It doesn't change the fact that this guy poached a lion does it?

Too much over the top anger over a first world problem? Sure... But its hard to defend a guy illegally poaching lions and leaving the meat to rot in the sun. Perhaps more the guides fault than his... But someone was not obeying the law imo. It's not too much to ask to respect the laws around hunting. I do it, no big deal. Now go ahead and call me an idiot bc I somewhat disagree with you .

Oh and yes I'm sure by nex wk there will be some other issue for ppl to go crazy over on social media... My guess is it might be lobster fishermen, I don't know just a guess.


Please direct me to a source which proves he knew what he was doing was in fact illegal and would subsequently make him a poacher. Until then, he's just a lion hunter in my books.
 
He must have poached the lion since game park lions are painted a special colour and trained to not cross the park boundaries which are also painted on the ground.
 
Kind of hilariously awesome is the lion's name, quite possibly after Cecil Rhodes, founder of Rhodesia. Perhaps someone was taking a dig at terrorist in chief Mugabe. Maybe "Ian" would have been too obvious and would have earned a trip to the gulag.
 
Personally I feel somewhat, but not completely sorry, for Dr Palmer. As far as I can tell he was trying to do what he was legally allowed to do. I might not agree with the law on hunting lions but if it is permitted then so be it, change the law. However, based on everything I read he used a crossbow which is typically prohibited for hunting big game in Africa for humane reasons. This proved very correct in this case, 40 hours to kill the lion. Second you as the hunter have a responsibility to make sure all the paperwork is correct and the hunt is conducted in an ethical manner. Which based on the information available was not the case. Can he be treated fairly at this stage? Probably not but it certainly seems he is not without fault. Is the reaction over the top? Yes BUT cases like this tend to be what brings a common hidden problem to the for.

In my view the reported dragging of a bait animal to draw the lion from a national park onto private land is unethical, if not illegal, as is baiting for bears while hiding in a tree and a number of other common "hunting" practices. Please understand I am not anti hunting but I do question the ethics of Trophy hunting and some of the practices used. I have no problem with a legal hunt for meat etc so long as it is ethically and humanely carried out.
 
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People living under the Mugabe regime have a lot more to worry about than a single lion (not to detract from its value or demise, but that's just the reality).
 
This week it's Cecil the Lion,
Last week it's Whaling in the Faroe Islands,
The week before that it's the Stampede / Trampede chick
The week before that it's some other equally as trivial subject of uproar.

Yet, nobody opens their eyes to the world right around them.
 
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