First timer going this November

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This year will be my first time deer hunting ever, my friends cabin is in manitolin island (cochburn) area. I'll be using my savage 30.06. They say its highly wooded area and not very open. With a few small laneways. My question is and this comes as a suggestion from my friend, to just mount my eotech 512. I am a pretty good shot, just wondering if I should avoid magnification in this situation
 
If you're shooting 20-70 yds., the red dot is fine. It gives quick target acquisition on a moving animal. I don't know if you're stand hunting or moving through the bush, and until you get a feel for the terrain you won't be able to refine your hunting techniques. I hope your buddies have experience and can help guide you. It's a wonderful time to be in the bush, and I'm looking forward as well to my hunt near Minden. Lot's of luck to you.
 
If you have some distance in your open shooting lanes, a low magnification fixed scope or 2-7X40 or even a 3-9X40 scope would work too, crank down on low magnification.
 
make ure you have a "landowners permission slip" with you at all times.
the MNR are usually out quite a bit on the island, and as its all private land, you must have the signed form.
 
Don't forget a good deer call thay shod be in full rut early to mid November if they are like the deer on the west coast
Calling deer is extremely exciting During the rut and the guys are right low powered scopes and reflex sights is the way to go
I found the calls that imitate a fawn works best jurring the rut
Work the call the doe's and fawns will run right up to you keep working the call ther is a buck Close by but he needs a little more time and coaxing
 
You may wish to bear in mind your bullet trajectory when you're shooting from a stand. Depending on the height of the stand and the closeness of the deer, I assume you're aware that you have to adjust your aim point depending on the down angle. I had a buddy blow a shot at a lovely big buck when he failed to account for the angle and shot high.
 
Just put the cross hairs on their chest and squeeze the trigger. The range you will be shooting the trajectory wont mean anything.
Not to mention your heart going 100 mph when you see your first buck.

Keep your shots up in the front, as all the good eats are at the back......a nice lung shot and you will have a buck down.



There are lots of deer, should be a good time. Safe Hunt, and good luck.
 
Thanks guys I appreciate the advice, most helpful, I've been shooting for years and years but never hunted, so I'm pretty excited. Guess you can say I've been perfecting my aim this whole time lol
 
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You may wish to bear in mind your bullet trajectory when you're shooting from a stand. Depending on the height of the stand and the closeness of the deer, I assume you're aware that you have to adjust your aim point depending on the down angle. I had a buddy blow a shot at a lovely big buck when he failed to account for the angle and shot high.

Lol. He's shooting a 30-06 not a 40lb bow! At those ranges and the height of a deer stand I'd be amazed if the bullet impact varies more than an inch. The reticle on his red dot is likely 3moa wide anyways. You're shooting a deer, not threading a needle.


Further to the OP, I hunt with a red dot. Great in lower light. Quick target acquisition. Great peripheral vision cuz you've got both eyes open. Well suited to still hunting and deer drives when deer at more likely to appear suddenly and be on the move. If you're hunting from a stand (not during a drive) and calling deer, it's nicer to have a low power scope
 
Thanks guys I appreciate the advice, most helpful, I've been shooting for years and years but never hunted, so I'm pretty excited. Guess you can say I've been perfecting my aim this whole time lol

The Eotech will serve you well! One of the guys I hunt with has one on his rifle. You can target anything within 100 meters or so with out any issues. Your heart will be jackhammering when you get ready to shoot the deer:) Try to control your breathing before you shoot. Good luck to you in November! if you get a deer post up some pics.
 
Buy a nice low powered scope with good light transmission and gathering rating. 2-7 or 1.5-4x leave the eotecs and red dots on your shotguns and black rifles. Trust me you'll be a happier Hunter.
 
Buy a nice low powered scope with good light transmission and gathering rating. 2-7 or 1.5-4x leave the eotecs and red dots on your shotguns and black rifles. Trust me you'll be a happier Hunter.
why would he be happier with a scope over his eotec ,if he is used to his eotec why not use it ,anything with in 100 yards will be dead with that eotec ,why spend money on a scope if he already has something he is familiar with and will do the job he needs it to do well ,,a deer is a big target and a red dot is a great sight to use at ranges up to 100 yards and he can shot with both eyes open this really helps new hunters find the animal in the scope and is very good for first timers ,how many times have you seen newbys trying to find the animal in the scope and just cannot get it ,keep it simple and use what you know ,,,.Dutch
 
tdod101, some good info here, stick with what you have and what you are comfortable with for your first hunt. If you wish to change optics, definitely stick with lower power for "bush" hunting. Talk to the guys you are with, who have previously hunted this property you are on. If they see lots of deer every year, you don't have to drop the first one you see. One thing hunting Manitoulin has done for me is taught me to be a patient and calm deer hunter. If you are lucky enough (depending on your area) you can watch several deer before picking one to shoot. Watch them in your binos, pick you shots, picture making the shot and let them walk off. When you see one you really want, then you will be calm and have no problem making a perfect shot. Don't get fancy picking head shots or neck shots, just stick to behind the front shoulder. They may run off, but they will be laying within 50 yards.
Unless a big monster buck walks into your cut first thing Monday morning, then everything I said goes out the window. LOL Try to keep calm, (good luck) and make your shot. That's the best part of hunting, the excitement, that and deer camp life.
 
Getting even more excited now after reading more posts. I'm pretty comfortable with my eotech, had it on my Jr carbine then my vz 223, mounted it last night on the 30.06, its working exactly as I thought it would, very well! I'll be sticking with the eotech, now I just have to zero it, I'm thinking for 75 yards, a nice happy medium in between 50 and 100. I'm still young so my eyes are fairly good still.

Pro tip: a good friend of mine was telling me when you see one, get your sights on it, and make a quick yelp noise or something to get it to stop roaming/walking. Than shoot. Yay or Nay?
 
Pro tip: a good friend of mine was telling me when you see one, get your sights on it, and make a quick yelp noise or something to get it to stop roaming/walking. Than shoot. Yay or Nay?

If the deer is unaware of you, I wouldn't make any noise. Now if it's kind of spooked and takes off because it feels something is off, a whistle or a PSSSTT!! can sometimes stop them for a few seconds.

Also, check out some field dressing videos on youtube. I'm assuming your buddy will show you how in the event you get a deer, but it won't hurt to have a clue what's going on.
 
I almost always give a walking/feeding deer a quiet "blaaat", be ready before doing it, they freeze and look, just as you squeeze your shot off.
I've stopped running bucks with a "blaat" or with a grunt call it you have it handy. Doesn't always stop them, but a deer already on the run is either going to stop or keep running. so its no loss.
 
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