Is there going to be a 50 beowulf pistol mag?
- Thread starter Mr Melvinheimer
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Nice, I wish we could hunt with an AR here simply because you can buy them in so many different calibers from reputable companies already built.It's in an AR destined for the U. S.
The only similar platform in in Canada that is NR and worth converting is the ACR, But it has not been around long so the aftermarket is much slower getting up to speed.
I'm in agreement with your post as I feel gun owners need to take shooting more seriously and stop thumbing their noses up at our current laws. You find a loop hole keep your mouths shut or sure as Hell the RCMP will close it.
last week I was shooting beside a young guy armedwith prohibited magazines. When I asked him where he purchased them he replied the States, he basically said the law was foolish after I confronted him that it was a bad idea that he was using them.
My club is under tremendous pressure from the CFO so I couldn't stand by any longer and the shooter was removed. Every body needs to understand that as foolish as the laws are we must follow them so asking for 30 round capacity BW mags is just asking for trouble. Push back quietly and through the proper channels and avoid giving the anti's ammunition at all costs.
Yes you are truly destined to change the world.
Ok, I have to point out.
If you "Push back quietly" your not pushing back.
Also the antis can't even effectively use the so called ammo generated by something like a legal magazine because it's not a problem.
Being quiet however gives the antis the ammo to finish us. That ammo being, everybody agrees with the agenda and it's working great.
Yes I know full well what the law says, It is all nothing but a game of politics like I have said before you are up against the RCMP lab that doesn't follow them.
The recent attempts at prohibiting Beowulf and pistol mags is simply because too much noises have been made about them, when people are tripping over each other to make a Youtube video about how we can shoot more than 5 rounds with a semi or people calling the RCMP lab for "the legality" of it, eventually the anti's and bias media will catch wind of it and start fanning the flame of ignorance and fear and one thing bureaucrats do when enough people start making noise is doing some thing to make them look like they are relevant.
They don't even have to confiscated anything all they need to do is write a memo and email it out to retailer, CBSA, RCMP trooper and Conservation officer, next thing you know the retailer stop selling them, the importers shipment gets detained and Joe Blow's afternoon at Sylvester road is ruined, It is a dirty tactic that have been used over and over again pretty much every retailer and importer have been stung before, sure they can fight, they might win however in Canada there are no laws that says the lab have to compensation any property that has been destroyed. For the lab it cost nothing to write a memo, however for the firearm community like CSSA and NFA to fight it, it will cost money and political favour neither can really afford it.
Yes, technically and legally Beowulf pistol mags are possible, however setting up shop or lining a manufacturer to produce them is not cheap and no one is willing to put out that kind of money to do it.
The recent attempts at prohibiting Beowulf and pistol mags is simply because too much noises have been made about them, when people are tripping over each other to make a Youtube video about how we can shoot more than 5 rounds with a semi or people calling the RCMP lab for "the legality" of it, eventually the anti's and bias media will catch wind of it and start fanning the flame of ignorance and fear and one thing bureaucrats do when enough people start making noise is doing some thing to make them look like they are relevant.
They don't even have to confiscated anything all they need to do is write a memo and email it out to retailer, CBSA, RCMP trooper and Conservation officer, next thing you know the retailer stop selling them, the importers shipment gets detained and Joe Blow's afternoon at Sylvester road is ruined, It is a dirty tactic that have been used over and over again pretty much every retailer and importer have been stung before, sure they can fight, they might win however in Canada there are no laws that says the lab have to compensation any property that has been destroyed. For the lab it cost nothing to write a memo, however for the firearm community like CSSA and NFA to fight it, it will cost money and political favour neither can really afford it.
Yes, technically and legally Beowulf pistol mags are possible, however setting up shop or lining a manufacturer to produce them is not cheap and no one is willing to put out that kind of money to do it.
Well said, there is also no law that says the police/crown are required to compensate you for costs you incur as a result of their investigation if indeed you have done nothing wrong. But as you said, it is a "dirty tactic" used time and again, meant as a deterrent from owning certain items or participating in certain sports, etc
Sorry I agree with you and will clarify myself on being quiet. Being very vocal within the law is preferable then hiding ones head in the sand, however flaunting the law and being arrogant about the shooting sports will infuriate the anti masses.
As for changing the world I will do what ever is in my power to keep my club of 35 years clean. The people that bring illegal hardware, shoot up the neighbours houses and distroy the anti deflection and over the horizon barriers can all go to hell. They can stay home and play "call of duty" for all I care.
More or less what we need to do is have the CPC voted in with a overwhelming majority (So the left with their three parties can't say "look, most Canadians voted left....." and try some dirty trickery.)
With the CPC in overwhelming majority they can rightly be told to stuff it. We can then pressure the CPC to heave the FA and replace it with something workable. Having a 12 inch AR in .50 Bowolf would make a very handy bush gun. With a full magazine on tap. Why? Because it is there and we can. If you would rather a lever in 45-70 have at it.
In the words of Yuri Bezmenov we need to normalize the situation to what we want. It is currently normalized to a socialist viewpoint, and if they could, they would normalize it to a point where no one has guns but the military and police.
Then we will be having bear defense threads about your 12 inch or 20 inch AR in 50 Bowolf! Every Tuesday of course. Is 12 inches enough to get the velocity to kill a bear or do I need 16 or 20?
Would be awesome to have that normalized.
With the CPC in overwhelming majority they can rightly be told to stuff it. We can then pressure the CPC to heave the FA and replace it with something workable. Having a 12 inch AR in .50 Bowolf would make a very handy bush gun. With a full magazine on tap. Why? Because it is there and we can. If you would rather a lever in 45-70 have at it.
In the words of Yuri Bezmenov we need to normalize the situation to what we want. It is currently normalized to a socialist viewpoint, and if they could, they would normalize it to a point where no one has guns but the military and police.
Then we will be having bear defense threads about your 12 inch or 20 inch AR in 50 Bowolf! Every Tuesday of course. Is 12 inches enough to get the velocity to kill a bear or do I need 16 or 20?
Would be awesome to have that normalized.
What the laws should be and what the laws are are two completely different things, I agree that the mag limits are ridiculous and don't make anyone safer or stop any crimes but the law is the law and whether we agree with it or not the charges that come with breaking them and the consequences to the range are not good for anyone.
Unfortunately the NFA has pretty much imploded and I have no idea what the CSSA has been fighting for lately but the only way we're going to get any positive movement is if we follow the laws and support legal groups that are fighting for us.
The problem I have with everyone throwing all their trust in the PC party is that most don't realize that they are not pro gun ownership or pro anything firearms related. They are simply the least anti firearms party out there and if they thought it would get them more votes taking away our rights to firearms they would do it in a heartbeat.
We are truly doomed if more people don't start supporting the legal groups that are fighting for our rights in the courts.
We need to come together, stop squabbling and become a united group. Whenever one group throws another under the bus thinking that it's protecting their interests they are weakening the entire group. Divide and conquer is the game the anti's play and we are suckers that fall for it every time. Funny thing is that it seems like the black rifle and pistol crowd is pretty good but the non restricted hunting rifle crowd (fudds
) think that they are protecting themselves by doing it. They don't realize that once the restricted and black rifles are gone that they will be next. Not sure why he would go to the states to get 30 round mags when they can be bought right here and 30 seconds with a cordless drill returns them to their natural normal capacity state. He's on the extra dumb list I guess, risk getting caught with a prohibited device here and risk getting caught smuggling them across the border. Good for you for talking to him and telling him to leave. Idiots like that are the people who end up getting places shut down and more of our already limited rights taken away.
Agreed, push back legally, simply breaking the law because you don't agree with it only hurts the group. It's just like speeding, the speed limit may be stupid and unreasonably low but get caught breaking it and you still get a ticket, get caught breaking it too many times and you'll be taking the bus.
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