NEA Issues *WARNING*

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:popCorn: My poor little NEA SBR(that's a yankee term, not sure I can say that with a Canadian rifle:cool:) is still chugging along wth it's two American friends. Guess no one told it it's no good or it's un-American, so it really doesn't know it yet. They all play like American kids do, the innocence of children.

"They just don't know how the real AR-15 world is you say".................. I hope they never will..........


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RememberTheSomme said:
:popCorn: My poor little NEA SBR(that's a yankee term, not sure I can say that with a Canadian rifle:cool:) is still chugging along wth it's two American friends. Guess no one told it it's no good or it's un-American, so it really doesn't know it yet. They all play like American kids do, the innocence of children.

"They just don't know how the real AR-15 world is you say".................. I hope they never will..........


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Now that's some badass .....can I say bad a$$ humour Laugh2
 
RememberTheSomme said:
:popCorn: My poor little NEA SBR(that's a yankee term, not sure I can say that with a Canadian rifle:cool:) is still chugging along wth it's two American friends. Guess no one told it it's no good or it's un-American, so it really doesn't know it yet. They all play like American kids do, the innocence of children.

"They just don't know how the real AR-15 world is you say".................. I hope they never will..........


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You know why you don't see people bragging about their Colt, LMT, DD, BCM, S&W, Noveske, KAC, Larue? Because they know they'll work right from the box without issue. Same reason why you see "my NORC xyz has X number of rounds and works fine!" threads and you don't see the same about reputable known brands. Those who buy low end and/or questionable products are excited and proud when they get one that works. I'm glad your rifle works, its just too bad you had to roll the dice and gamble on getting one that does. The fact still remains, that for similar money or slightly more a person could have a mil spec gun from a company with a solid and lengthy history of quality and reliability.

TW25B
 
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Here's my experience with my NEA 18 DMR -rifle.

First off, the chamber was unfinished, it left a nasty "belt" in the fired brass.
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After a gunsmith cleaned the chamber up, there weren't any issues for about a year.

Then the bolt broke in in half. At that point, round count was about 3400.
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The broken bolt got replaced with a chromed bolt from NEA.

After just 340 rounds, trouble started again. The locking lugs of the new bolt had considerable deformation.
Also, pieces from the lugs were chipped off.
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And once again, the gun was sent to a gunsmith to be inspected.

The gunsmith inspected the rifle and these are his findings:
Headspace is 0.12 millimetres(or 0.0047 inches) over the C.I.P.(equivalent of SAAMI) maximum (Headspace was OK when the replacement bolt was installed).
Barrel extension is most likely damaged too as headspace was over the maximum with numerous different bolts.

The BHO groove in the lower receiver has been deformed, bolt doesn't lock back with empty magazines.
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The upper receiver is also really worn out; for example, charging handle is reaaally loose in the upper.

Total round count with the rifle is little over 3700
 
There stuff is getting better. But with there ar10 coming we get to go through this beta testing on customers again.
just give them another 5years.....
 
jackrabbit000 said:
And yet, people still keep buying their crap.
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Don't worry, the NEA defenders will be here soon to blame the shooter or the ammo or magical elves for the issues. Then they will claim that the rifle is not generation ---- because that generation of NEA rifles are awesome.
 
RememberTheSomme said:
:popCorn: My poor little NEA SBR(that's a yankee term, not sure I can say that with a Canadian rifle:cool:) is still chugging along wth it's two American friends. Guess no one told it it's no good or it's un-American, so it really doesn't know it yet. They all play like American kids do, the innocence of children.

"They just don't know how the real AR-15 world is you say".................. I hope they never will..........


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And we're all very impressed.
 
Good warranties are for products that really don't need them, ####ty ones aee for products that fail all the time, so they don't have to support the product. In NEAs defence, they must be losing their shorts repairing or replacing product.

I have a lifetime warranty on my Hornaday press for over 25 years, and have yet to call them on it, they even offered to replace it for something current that they stilll have parts for.

Thanks for the post OP, saved me the trouble of dealing with NEA
 
They shouldn't bother offering a life-time warranty. I have had dozens of emails over the course of like 3 months to get an inherently flawed garbage rifle fixed properly. It has been a nightmare. After multiple times back and forth, hundreds of dollars of shipping cost...paid by me...I got my PDW back with damage and they are refusing to acknowledge they did the damage and are just giving me the run around...worst service I have ever had. Don't buy NEA...
 
madcow said:
Good warranties are for products that really don't need them, ####ty ones aee for products that fail all the time, so they don't have to support the product. In NEAs defence, they must be losing their shorts repairing or replacing product.
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I disagree a bit. I've bought some high end products that had fairly ####ty warranties. Elcan for example. $2000+ scope (and at the time a 2 year waiting period) didn't have a spectacular warranty and there is, or was if it's changed, a known issue with the recital/red dot light being intermittent. I have some friends who weren't as lucky as me.

When Eotech hit the market big time they used to have a pretty solid warranty. They're starting to wane with customer service and heard of a few guys as well who have got boned. I emailed them about my sight and they haven't even bothered to reply.
 
badboybeeson said:
There stuff is getting better. But with there ar10 coming we get to go through this beta testing on customers again.
just give them another 5years.....
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How are they(NEA) getting better? Their guns are grossly out of spec, their bolts are junk, the handguard is an ancient design that also fails constantly. 3700 rounds is a f**king joke for an AR. This one has had several issues and been returned at least once. For a company that touts(or used to) their rifles "meet or exceed milspec" they sure as sh*t are not holding up to that standard.. I just looked at their website and they have removed their claim of milspec or I can't find the claim. They indicate their rifles are made of T6 aluminum but fail to indicate whether it is 7075 or 6061 and only 7075 is milspec. Their bolt is made with S7 steel, not Carpenter 158 steel as per milspec.


Right from NEA's website

The NEA15 rifle is North Eastern Arms flagship product – a superb rendition of the most battle proven firearm in the world. This rifle puts superior accuracy, unsurpassed reliability, and next-generation corrosion resistance in the hands of war fighters, law enforcement officers, and security forces around the globe*. Whatever the situation – long-range precision fire, vehicle mounted operations or close quarter battle – the NEA15 offers a high degree of modularity.

Constructed around a polygonal-rifled precision barrel featuring North Eastern Arms’ proprietary ARC+ treatment, the NEA15 is manufactured to exacting standards**. This ARC+ treatment is also applied to the bolt carrier, ensuring a weapon system with maximum functionality regardless of operating theatre. Upper receivers are impregnated with dry-film lubricant, ensuring performance under extreme conditions. Receiver groups feature integrated, enlarged trigger guards, flared magazine wells and are machined from forged T6 aluminum.

Not exactly true statements or claims.

GuiltySpark said:
I disagree a bit. I've bought some high end products that had fairly ####ty warranties. Elcan for example. $2000+ scope (and at the time a 2 year waiting period) didn't have a spectacular warranty and there is, or was if it's changed, a known issue with the recital/red dot light being intermittent. I have some friends who weren't as lucky as me.

When Eotech hit the market big time they used to have a pretty solid warranty. They're starting to wane with customer service and heard of a few guys as well who have got boned. I emailed them about my sight and they haven't even bothered to reply.
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I don't wish to be the bearer of bad news but, Elcan isn't overly popular nor is it all that great. Their warranty is rather lame when you look at the major brands. Eotech was decent until they got bought up by L3 communications. The point here is that regardless of price you need to do your research on which companies actually give a sh*t about their customers and which do not. Elcan and Eotech seem to have a less of an interest in their customers than other brands.

TW25B
 
TW25B said:
I don't wish to be the bearer of bad news but, Elcan isn't overly popular nor is it all that great. Their warranty is rather lame when you look at the major brands. Eotech was decent until they got bought up by L3 communications. The point here is that regardless of price you need to do your research on which companies actually give a sh*t about their customers and which do not. Elcan and Eotech seem to have a less of an interest in their customers than other brands.

TW25B
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Edited post because I was going off topic but That's exactly what I said. Elcan and Eotech don't seem to fret over customer service too much, probably thanks to military contracts.
 
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