Help please locating canadian made reduced capacity 308 cases

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A few years ago someone in Western Canada was making aluminum reduced case capacity 308 casings.
does anybody know how to get ahold of them now and/or who bought/has all their old stock?
Please post the info on here and/or send me a PM.
 
I read a while back about a gunsmith and member here producing 1911's chambered in a wildcat that used cut down .308Win cases and .45acp bullets to make what amounted to .45acp +P ammo. Is that what you're after?
 
You can reduce the load in a .308 pretty far down with the right powders. Throw in 10gr of most any medium burn rate pistol or shotgun powder and they'll be kitten-fart loads. No need for reduced capacity cases.

Unless you're looking for these for some other purpose than use in a .308 rifle. Then this doesn't help.
 
Thanks members
I am looking for the aluminum reduced capacity 308 Winchester cases made a few years back in Canada, I think IN Saskatchewan.
if anyone knows where the guy or his stock went, or has any of these for sale , please send me a PM!!!!
 
foresthunter said:
Thanks members
I am looking for the aluminum reduced capacity 308 Winchester cases made a few years back in Canada, I think IN Saskatchewan.
if anyone knows where the guy or his stock went, or has any of these for sale , please send me a PM!!!!
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I doubt the application if you were planning on reloading.
If these were factory rounds . . . not finding any might be an indicator.
While you use the term "reduced capacity", are you really looking for reduced loads?
If it is reduced loads then what velocity do you wish to obtain?
Currently wondering . . .
 
these were manufactured reloading cases made to use small amounts of pistol powder to propel bullets at low velocity for small game.
made in several calibres, I have some in 22-250.
 
That's not something I've heard of, but a Game Getter will do what you're looking for. It uses .22cal powder-actuated fastener charges to drive round lead balls from a specially made chamber adaptor.

If you do find exactly what you're seeking, please post so we can see one.
 
pretty easy to picture what I am talking about, just imagine an aluminum 308 case with a small hole bored down below the neck into the body that maybe only holds 10 to 12 grains of powder, the case still accepts standard 308 clibre bullets, if you have ever seen them you would remember. the fellow that made/marketed them is out there somewhere along with his leftover stock!
the gamegetter was/is a joke compared to these cases!
 
I can imagine what you're describing, but I have to ask... what's the point? If you must use a standard bullet and primer, why not simply load one of the many reduced or very-reduced recipes available in a standard brass casing?

I've even come across some loads using very heavy lead bullets and low powder charges with filler that were substantially sub-sonic, IIRC.
 
- pistol powder goes along way, much more than trailboss!!

reduced loads with trailboss that are only at partial case capacity tend to show velocity/ poi changes in big temperature changes
 
kg said:
Some have filled cases with lead and drilled the cavities too.[/QUOTE]

That's what I was thinking. Take new brass, plug the flash hole and insert a used primer backwards, then fill partway with lead (getting a precise amount would be a real challenge). After cooling, re-drill the flash hole, probably larger, like is done for subsonic rounds.

Lots of work for ??
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One of the best books ever on cast bullets is "The Art of Bullet Casting" from Handloader Magazine. In that book is a nice article by Jim Carmichel, "A Case for Accuracy". In it he describes how he made a reduced 308 case using a 223 as an insert. He opened the 308 neck ( a lot ) and inserted a 223 case without the rim and with the neck cut and expanded. It's a perfect fit and looks to be what you're looking for. Hope this helps, Carmichel was one of the best writers and had lots of great ideas. Best of luck.
 
Andy said:
That's what I was thinking. Take new brass, plug the flash hole and insert a used primer backwards, then fill partway with lead (getting a precise amount would be a real challenge). After cooling, re-drill the flash hole, probably larger, like is done for subsonic rounds.
Lots of work for ??
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I would use a real ladle (Lyman or RCBS), melt a few bullets in it for a known weight/volume and pour in hot cases, following the ladle's instructions (tilt...).
Also try something else than an inverted primer for ease of removal; maybe cut matches or skewers from $ Store.
 
kg said:
I would use a real ladle (Lyman or RCBS), melt a few bullets in it for a known weight/volume and pour in hot cases, following the ladle's instructions (tilt...).
Also try something else than an inverted primer for ease of removal; maybe cut matches or skewers from $ Store.
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Good thinking - cast a bullet, remelt it and pour. I didn't think about removing the inverted primer! The skewer idea is a good one.

Problem is, the primer flash will erode the narrow lead passage that's drilled, and the flame will have to travel farther through it to the powder.

223 inside a 308 is a fine idea, but really doesn't reduce the internal capacity much. If you're going to open up the neck to insert a cylinder, you may as well buy 3/8" brass stock, and drill a hole to suit, e.g. 1/4".
 
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