Recommended accurate 9mm excluding CZ for Newbie

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Hello all,
I am new to the sport and am currently in the market for an accurate used 9mm preferably under $1000 and not a CZ as my friend who I go to the range with owns one.
I am looking at Sig p226 any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
What kind of shooting do you think you will be getting into? Bullseye, IPSC, just normal range fun .....?

traxdjs said:
Hello all,
I am new to the sport and am currently in the market for an accurate used 9mm preferably under $1000 and not a CZ as my friend who I go to the range with owns one.
I am looking at Sig p226 any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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The SIG 226 is a nice pistol, well made, and accurate, and it can be had in numerous versions, across a broad spectrum of cost. If it has a disadvantage compared to some, its that the barrel sits fairly high above the hand, which tends to increase muzzle flip when the gun recoils when loaded with heavy bullets in +P loads.

If you wanted a striker fired pistol, I'd take a hard look at the Springfield XD.

Other than that, if you like your pal's CZ, why not get one? At one time the CZ-75 was considered the best 9mm pistol available, and different might not work to your advantage. Folks have a tendency to discount older designs, but the CZ-75 has been doing it right for a long time.

Both Walther and H&K products can be counted on for top quality and intelligent designs.
 
Glock 17 / M&P 9 / P226

Cant go wrong with any of em. Parts are readily available, and all 3 are easy to shoot. Maintenance; ease of cleaning and swapping parts, goes to the Glock and M&P in my opinion. If you intend on getting into any holster usage - ipsc / idpa, the M&P 9 comes with a range kit including a holster, mag pouch, and speed loader. It's a good deal. Holsters for Glocks and Sigs are readily available as well, but aren't typically included as a package.
 
traxdjs said:
Hello all,
I am new to the sport and am currently in the market for an accurate used 9mm preferably under $1000 and not a CZ as my friend who I go to the range with owns one.
I am looking at Sig p226 any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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All of the major brand handguns are accurate. They wouldn't be in business otherwise. Budget brands such as norinco are the hit-and-miss ones due to shoddy manufacturing. What factors in choosing a handgun are budget, aesthetic appeal, ergonomics, ease of maintenance, and ease of repair/upgrades. The best advice really is for you to go to the gun store and try as many guns as possible. Even better if you can shoot some. Your hands and your style of shooting are different from mine. While i feel glocks to be great, it might not be for you. Good luck.
 
traxdjs said:
Hello all,
I am new to the sport and am currently in the market for an accurate used 9mm preferably under $1000 and not a CZ as my friend who I go to the range with owns one.
I am looking at Sig p226 any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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If you head over to the EE qwuickly, there is a West
German manufacture Sig Sauer there(I have to dog in that deal btw) this one claims to be imported and no longer available on thenCanadian new market.
Seems easy to me, but then again my taste varies with the wind.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
For a newby I would recommend an all steel gun. Generally speaking they are easier to shoot well as the weight decreases recoil and muzzle flip. The CZ 75 series has proved to be very accurate and reliable and comes with a relatively good trigger. Personally I like the Sig 226 and have one but I also have a CZ 75 series gun. Both are great guns but for a newby I would go with the CZ. It is also quite a bit cheaper than the 226 depending on model.
 
for lots of cheap practice (which will be important once you start up IPSC), it's really handy to have something that converts to .22, or has a .22 equivalent. I believe you can get a .22 conversion for most 9mm Sigs and of course the CZ has a great (albeit) expensive conversion as well.

Was RO'ing one of the shooter's at our last IPSC club practice and noticed he had an awkward right hand position during his runs. Talking with him after, it appears that his right thumb rode on top of the the slide release if he used the generally accepted thumbs forward grip. I tried it too and it did prevent the slide from locking back on an empty mag. He didn't know if it was an extended or regular slide release on his Sig, but probably was a stock one. Don't know if all Sig's have this same position for the slide release.

You may want to give Grand Power a look. It's a polymer grip, but the slide rides on a full metal assembly inside the grip. I have a CZ Shadow, but switched over to a Grand Power X-Calibur after I handled one. The fit to my hand was perfect, and it's a really soft recoil with their rotating barrel lockup system. Trigger pull is better than a stock CZ SP01 Shadow, but have to admit a tuned Shadow trigger is slightly crisper. If you are in Vancouver anytime, send me a PM and you can try one of mine.
 
Take about $150 out of your bank and make the drive down to DVC in Coquitlam and try out a bunch of their guns for yourself. Phone and ask for a time where they are generally not that busy and show up. If they aren't too busy they will work with you and let you shoot a wide variety of their 9mm guns including the CZ just so you have a side by side comparison.

After going through them all, including the plastic guns, reshoot the best two or three off your obvious "short list". Buy the one that fits you and shoots the best for you.

By picking a time when it's fairly quiet you can also get a few pointers on the proper hold from the RO as well as taking a couple or three guns out at a time. They just don't have time or the guns to let you do this if it's busy. Thus why I said to call ahead and discuss what you want to do and why and ask for their most consistently quiet times to show up for that level of added attention.

I know you don't want to "blow" $150 bucks and walk away with nothing in your hands. But it's $150 that will avoid you getting a gun which doesn't feel right or that doesn't shoot well for YOU. And how much will it cost if you buy a gun you don't fit well and have to sell at a loss to buy the one that DOES shoot well for you? I'd suggest that $150 at DVC is money well spent and that you're lucky enough to live close enough to such a place so you can try out a wide variety before you buy your own gun.

I don't understand your decision to avoid the CZ line. When I lived in Burnaby and did this same test with DVC's guns for myself it had come down to either a Beretta 92fs or the IWI Baby Eagle/Jericho. Then one of the regulars let me try their Shadow. It was a big lead up from either the Beretta or Jericho and was instantly my first choice. So don't discount them if it turns out that you keep coming to the conclusion that it's the best fitting and best shooting gun for you. So what if your buddy already has one?

If you're looking at getting into any of the shooting games like IPSC or IDPA or just coming down to Mission or Chilliwack for our Speed Steel events you will want to buy a gun which you can get extra magazines for without taking out a second mortgage on the house. Some brands make you feel like you're buying the owner's kids a full year of university tuition. Others only make you feel you got raped a little bit. So consider the availability and cost of magazines and decent holsters into your choice.
 
Try holding a bunch of different types and styles, or even better shoot a few if possible! Try to narrow down between double/single action, metal or polymer, high or low borax, hammer or striker fire.

In my opinion;

Glock 17 or sig 226

But you really have to see what works for you.

At first I wanted a Walther P99, until I shot it. I couldn't hit anything with it. It just didn't fit my hand right.

Same with the hkP30. Best ergonomics ever. For some reason or another, it doesn't agree with me.
 
grinder08 said:
For a newby I would recommend an all steel gun. Generally speaking they are easier to shoot well as the weight decreases recoil and muzzle flip. The CZ 75 series has proved to be very accurate and reliable and comes with a relatively good trigger. Personally I like the Sig 226 and have one but I also have a CZ 75 series gun. Both are great guns but for a newby I would go with the CZ. It is also quite a bit cheaper than the 226 depending on model.
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Thats great news as I have decided to get both the CZ Shadowline and a slightly used Sig 226. If one totally out performs the other I will sell it.
Thanks again for all the advice
 
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