Chargerguy
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Yes, this always happens with one of my factory Glock 10 round mags in my ASR. It pushes the follower right out of the mag. The other 25 mags are fine.
Review TNW Aero Survival Rifle ASR
- Thread starter Trevormclay
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Yes, this always happens with one of my factory Glock 10 round mags in my ASR. It pushes the follower right out of the mag. The other 25 mags are fine.
It happens with two of mine. Is there somthing different about the followers in your other mags?
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I'm guessing the mags you are having trouble with are real Glock mags. The profile on the follower has a square shoulder that the bolt catches. You can file this shoulder off quite easily and the issue will go away. I experienced the same issue with a Glock mag that was crushed by the bolt on last shot. My KCI mags have a concave shoulder and experience no issues.
I put a TRS25 on mine and it performs very well. I had a set of flip up sights laying around and installed them as well. They co-witness nicley when flipped up.
Enjoy your ASR any any fence sitters should pull the trigger. Very fun gun that anyone can shoot.
Jonesyatpl
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- Nanoose Bay, BC
Looks great!
Is the pistol grip a standard AR-type? The youtube videos say AR-15 type, but the little tab at the bottom of the tapco style grip has me wondering. Being the Magpul fanboy that I am, I'd love to see an MOE or MIAD on it
I also noticed a couple different stocks. Is the tube Mil-Spec or Commercial diameter? Guessing by the pics I'd say commercial, but I am assuming the threading is AR-15 compatible as well?
Thanks!
Jonesy
edited: Ordered mine today! Only 6 left for sale in Canada, as far as I could tell.
Is the pistol grip a standard AR-type? The youtube videos say AR-15 type, but the little tab at the bottom of the tapco style grip has me wondering. Being the Magpul fanboy that I am, I'd love to see an MOE or MIAD on it
I also noticed a couple different stocks. Is the tube Mil-Spec or Commercial diameter? Guessing by the pics I'd say commercial, but I am assuming the threading is AR-15 compatible as well?
Thanks!
Jonesy
edited: Ordered mine today! Only 6 left for sale in Canada, as far as I could tell.
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Jonesyatpl
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- Nanoose Bay, BC
Hi all.
Can anyone dumb it down to my level and provide a pic of the nubbin' on the Glock magazine follower that needs to be Dremelled down versus the KCI mags? Might save me a lot of guesswork and grief if I run into the same issue.
Many thanks in advance!
Can anyone dumb it down to my level and provide a pic of the nubbin' on the Glock magazine follower that needs to be Dremelled down versus the KCI mags? Might save me a lot of guesswork and grief if I run into the same issue.
Many thanks in advance!
Chargerguy
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Here's a pic of the mags I use. All factory Glock mags. The 10 rounder on the left is the problem mag (in my ASR). You can see where the ASR bolt hits the follower and pushes it out of the mag when empty. The 17 round mags run flawlessly. And before anyone asks, the 17 rounder is blocked internally.
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Does this take all basic AR15 furniture like the JR and TD do? What are these priced at? That barrel looks pretty long... listed at 18.75". Just did a search and it looks like this isn't in stock anywhere.
They DO NOT accept AR pistol grips that have a Beaver tale thingy (whatever the Ar guy call them)... and the Ar buffer tube is commercial/civilian sized, they are not milspec. I payed around $835 CAD for mine around a year ago. And yes the barrel is 18-19". I personally like the pencil barrel look and feel, gives the firearm, a sortof, "caulking gun" feel lol
Eagle Outfitters in Richmond had one last Fall , they are a sponsor here.
I had one for a short period of time and had fun with it.
Just wasnt my choice of coffee.
Tight Groups,
Rob
Resurrecting an old thread, just to say that I got my 9mm Aero this past week from Tenda for $800 and am very happy with it. Just got out for a short trip to chrony it with 147gr Remington UMC, averaged 1038fps. Hoping to get out soon when I have more time and sight it in. As for fitting standard AR stuff the only thing I've tried is a rubber 'Ergogrip' which fit perfectly. Has a big duckbill which works well to keep the web of my thumb away from the split pin retainer on the buffer tube lock nut. Absolutely snug fit on the frame, no gaps. Got that a few weeks earlier anticipating the order, waiting for my PAL/RPAL to come in the mail. The stock grip just looks like junk, and was even worse in person, so that's gone into the recycling box.
My 9mm TNW ASR has never ran right in the 4+ years ive owned it. It constantly jams, mostly FTE, sometimes FTF. Ive tried almost everything. Even TNW gave up and abandoned me.
I plan to sell it in the coming months at a significant loss. And will NEVER recommend one to a friend.
I plan to sell it in the coming months at a significant loss. And will NEVER recommend one to a friend.
By 'almost everything' did you try a different weight behind the bolt carrier? Not the simplest thing to swap out, but if one ordered a spare weight and drilled out maybe have the steel, that could be enough change to allow more complete cycling if the FTE is happening due to under-powered loads for the stock weight. A lighter spring might do it as well, though I think less likely. I've only fired a handful of the 147gr Remington UMC but it's cycled perfectly, putting the intact (though dirty) brass about 6 feet away from the carbine, loading the next one just fine, beginning of the mag or end of it no different. I haven't tried anything else through it but I'm really only interested in the 147gr stuff anyway.
Seems a fairly consistent theme with the Aero that people are having FTF/FTE problems outside a certain narrow range of power levels, and there's a fairly wide range of 9mm ammo they're using. Makes sense to me, that a simple blowback operated action would be designed optimally for a certain kind of cartridge wouldn't work so well with ammunition working one way or another outside that range. I've also noticed in working the action manually with dummy rounds or live, that if I drop the bolt slowly the noses will jam, canting upwards too far. It needs to drop smartly on the cartridge to feed smoothly. When firing it apparently does that for me, but manually I need to remember not to be too gentle.
Seems a fairly consistent theme with the Aero that people are having FTF/FTE problems outside a certain narrow range of power levels, and there's a fairly wide range of 9mm ammo they're using. Makes sense to me, that a simple blowback operated action would be designed optimally for a certain kind of cartridge wouldn't work so well with ammunition working one way or another outside that range. I've also noticed in working the action manually with dummy rounds or live, that if I drop the bolt slowly the noses will jam, canting upwards too far. It needs to drop smartly on the cartridge to feed smoothly. When firing it apparently does that for me, but manually I need to remember not to be too gentle.
I polished the the inside of the receiver. Played with buffer weights and lengths, tried different bullet weights, tried threading in the buffer tube to different positions, kept the fit between the upper and lower tight removing all the play out of the extractor. Tried different lubes and no lubes.
Then I broke down and bought a newer gen Just Right Carbine. Works with excellent reliability right out of the box! I prefer the compactness and balance of the ASR more. But despite that the JRC has stolen all the show from my jammermatic Aero Survival ? Lol Rifle.
Mine was a old gen ASR, i would like to think the new ones had the kinks worked out, but i know a buddy who bought a newer gen one and supposedly it failed him as well. To the point that he sold it. There are still vids of disgruntled newer gen ASR owners popping up on utube so im under the belief TNW hasnt got their sh!t together yet. All these years later....
Then I broke down and bought a newer gen Just Right Carbine. Works with excellent reliability right out of the box! I prefer the compactness and balance of the ASR more. But despite that the JRC has stolen all the show from my jammermatic Aero Survival ? Lol Rifle.
Mine was a old gen ASR, i would like to think the new ones had the kinks worked out, but i know a buddy who bought a newer gen one and supposedly it failed him as well. To the point that he sold it. There are still vids of disgruntled newer gen ASR owners popping up on utube so im under the belief TNW hasnt got their sh!t together yet. All these years later....
Things do go wrong with guns, it's true. Take this quote from an ad for a JR Carbine in 9mm which just went up today on the EE:
Or this from Youtube, a JR Carbine in .45 with FTF problems:
Or this short review/warning from a Canadian owner of a more recent JR Carbine. Chews up magazines, very fussy to maintain, gets very filthy with modest amounts of shooting. Says it's accurate which is cool. Charging handle came loose after less than 100 rounds with a live round stuck in the chamber at the range because he didn't have an allen key with him (allen key? for an AR-style rifle charging handle? HUH? what is this, a Browning .22lr pistol?). Anyway, see for yourself:
I could go on and on. Googling 'JR Carbine problem' brings up loads of results, same as checking the same for 'TNW ASR problem' or similar. Or just about any other gun really. Sometimes you get a lemon. Sometimes it's user error. Sometimes just a disagreement with a particular ammunition and a particular gun. I know airguns a lot better, and have for example seen one type of pellet which which spirals absurdly from a PCP rifle which will deliver slightly larger than pellet-diameter groups at 10 metres with a different pellet. I've no idea which of these or what other problem might be involved with the TNW carbine you have, but yeah, if mine was doing that persistently I'd probably feel like selling it too. Given my history with airguns though... it's more likely I'd keep tinkering with the mechanisms until it worked flawlessly. But not everyone is up for that, so by all means sell it. Maybe it'll work better for a buyer using different ammo.
Or this from Youtube, a JR Carbine in .45 with FTF problems:
Or this short review/warning from a Canadian owner of a more recent JR Carbine. Chews up magazines, very fussy to maintain, gets very filthy with modest amounts of shooting. Says it's accurate which is cool. Charging handle came loose after less than 100 rounds with a live round stuck in the chamber at the range because he didn't have an allen key with him (allen key? for an AR-style rifle charging handle? HUH? what is this, a Browning .22lr pistol?). Anyway, see for yourself:
I could go on and on. Googling 'JR Carbine problem' brings up loads of results, same as checking the same for 'TNW ASR problem' or similar. Or just about any other gun really. Sometimes you get a lemon. Sometimes it's user error. Sometimes just a disagreement with a particular ammunition and a particular gun. I know airguns a lot better, and have for example seen one type of pellet which which spirals absurdly from a PCP rifle which will deliver slightly larger than pellet-diameter groups at 10 metres with a different pellet. I've no idea which of these or what other problem might be involved with the TNW carbine you have, but yeah, if mine was doing that persistently I'd probably feel like selling it too. Given my history with airguns though... it's more likely I'd keep tinkering with the mechanisms until it worked flawlessly. But not everyone is up for that, so by all means sell it. Maybe it'll work better for a buyer using different ammo.
I have a gen 1 fde ASR in 9mm i got late 2017 and its worked wonders. Havent had an issue in ~1500 rounds. Sorry to hear others have had issues.
Recently started playing around with my Gen 2 in that dark green and it too has been functioning well without any hiccups. Seems real hit or miss lol
Recently started playing around with my Gen 2 in that dark green and it too has been functioning well without any hiccups. Seems real hit or miss lol
Yah i agree for the most part, highly doubt ull find many "sks problem" videos tho lol
Im glad for every pissed off ASR owner there seems to be a few happy ones! But everytime theres a call out there for feedback on a ASR, I simply cant speak highly of it.
I could tinker more with it possibly resulting in better reliability. But life is short and im a busy man. Got no time to dik with a supposedly functional survival gun that I paid $850 for that doesnt cycle from the factory. Shouldve got the issue resolved when the gun was still new. "Break in periods" dont sit well with me anymore....
