Cartridge feeding.

That his rifle feeds so smooth that it will even feed and load empty cases from the magazine.
 
bcsteve said:
That his rifle feeds so smooth that it will even feed and load empty cases from the magazine.
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This is of course correct. Do rifles need to feed empty cases? Of course not. But if they will feed empties they will generally feed most anything else. This cartridge even wears the dreaded belt. :)
 
If you stick with empty cases, you can carry the rifle "hot" and "in the dark" with a 3-Position safety, a tang safety or NO safety at all... and you might still survive, despite the scary bears...
 
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hoytcanon said:
If you stick with empty cases, you can carry the rifle "hot" and "in the dark" with a 3-Position safety, a tang safety or NO safety at all... and you might still survive, despite the scary bears...
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Laugh2 $hit I spit coffee all over the keyboard!!!!!
 
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hoytcanon said:
If you stick with empty cases, you can carry the rifle "hot" and "in the dark" with a 3-Position safety, a tang safety or NO safety at all... and you might still survive, despite the scary bears...
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Some might get about as much hunting done with those cartridges as they usually do as well.
 
So many rifles don't feed properly. They feed after a fashion or feed most of the time, but don't feed like they should.

This rifle started life as a 30-06 so I knew it would need work. Perfect. Why not start with something that can be worked with. The magazine box was changed out. I supplied a follower and spring from the new BACO winchesters, and a Williams extractor then Jan did the rest. He modified the rails, and feed ramp then worked over the extractor and of course opened up the bolt face. He also installed a Lh factory take off 338 Win Mag barrel. The result is a rifle that can be used with confidence any time and anywhere.
 
A rifle that does not feed, fire, extract, and eject properly is junk, and it amazes me how poorly some perform from the factory!

Good thread Chuck, and good work by Jan.

Ted
 
I fully agree that cartridge feeding is a huge factor in regards to reliability, especially for a bolt junkie like myself.... However, it is important to remember that we don't feed empty casings, we feed hunting rounds......

You bring up an interesting point chuck, I want to try this test in my rifles, which are now all CRF..... sometimes the extra weight of a loaded round will make the difference (although I understand your test)...... friction and weight matters when feeding.... just my two cents....
 
Superbrad said:
I fully agree that cartridge feeding is a huge factor in regards to reliability, especially for a bolt junkie like myself.... However, it is important to remember that we don't feed empty casings, we feed hunting rounds......

You bring up an interesting point chuck, I want to try this test in my rifles, which are now all CRF..... sometimes the extra weight of a loaded round will make the difference (although I understand your test)...... friction and weight matters when feeding.... just my two cents....
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I'll take timing over weight as a necessity for proper feeding any day of the week.

And yes as I said already, feeding empties is not necessary. Now if your CRF rifles are indeed truly CRF you have something.
 
chuck nelson said:
I'll take timing over weight as a necessity for proper feeding any day of the week.

And yes as I said already, feeding empties is not necessary. Now if your CRF rifles are indeed truly CRF you have something.
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Not sure on timing, something I have yet to check out..... but appreciate your input..... just sold my last push feed..... and it was hard, as it was my 700 in aught six that I grew up lusting.....

All of my rifle actions are now M77, except my rem 799 in .223 that is ridiculously accurate and I just cant get rid of ..... When it works why change it I guess.....

There is absolutely a strange pleasure in doing a slow feed and watching your round fully captured and hovering above the chamber......
 
I have rifles that feed cartridges flawlessly, but have tried playing around with empty cases and found they don't feed well at all. I think the added weight of a loaded cartridge is a contributing factor to the feeding with many rifles.
 
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